I can tell you that I got into health issues trying to maintain a vegan diet and if I had continued it may have been fatal. This was admittedly in a small town nearly 20 years ago. But the point does stand, in a lot of places it does cost more to have a complete protein every day with plant based diets than with meat based ones. Especially in states that already have agriculture based economies as beef and chicken are largely subsidized. I ended up developing a sensitivity to soy that has thankfully since gone away with a more balanced diet but that made it basically impossible to continue with the options that were available to me at that time within my price range.

I’m not saying that my experience was the norm, but dismissing that time, cost, and location are factors is definitely unwarranted in this case.

Context matters, going pure vegetarian and heaven help you vegan. With our access to proper replacement can and will kill you.

For 99% of people that do go vegetarian or vegan don't have that problem tho. Because they DO have access. So for them it's literally a non issue and perfectly fine and healthy.

and by anecdotal evidence wise basically every vegan I've ever met has a laundry list of health issues from their diet choice.

Rarely meet an unhealthy vegetarian tho.

The real ones that always seem to be in God tier health are the pescatarians. Those fuckers have shit figured out.

You are just objectively less healthy if you don't have a well rounded diet that includes lean meat.

Period. The science is there..

You shouldn't eat lots of meat but some is very beneficial

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