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Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might actually be better than the status quo (www.thejournal.ie)
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Now, increased demand for traditional fishmeal – which is made from small species caught in the open ocean – has sent the industry scrambling for alternatives.

The stuff being used to make fish feed is a byproduct of the poultry industry – it’s what is left over after the parts of the chicken consumed by humans and the remains used for cat and dog food have been removed.

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[+] -13 points 5 days ago (18 children)

You can easily see vegetarians because of how unhealthy they look.

And the average person cant afford the amount of supplements and special food to live as long as a vegan.

I'd rather live healthy and enjoy life.

I catch my own fish and clean them myself and my health and numbers are all In great shape.

I also like having muscle and looking good.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    ???

    Do people actually believe this shit?

    Do people think you'll die if you become vegetarian or vegan? That you'll rely on supplements? That you can't get in shape or gain muscle?

    Man, people are fucking dumb as shit.

    Being vegetarian and getting protein is fucking easy. Being vegan and getting protein is also not really as difficult as people tell you. There are bodybuilders that are fully vegan.

    Every vegetarian and vegan I've met is healthier on average, and a guy I knew that ate fish he caught died of a parasite, so, like, if we're going off of anecdotal evidence, there's also that.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago

    I can tell you that I got into health issues trying to maintain a vegan diet and if I had continued it may have been fatal. This was admittedly in a small town nearly 20 years ago. But the point does stand, in a lot of places it does cost more to have a complete protein every day with plant based diets than with meat based ones. Especially in states that already have agriculture based economies as beef and chicken are largely subsidized. I ended up developing a sensitivity to soy that has thankfully since gone away with a more balanced diet but that made it basically impossible to continue with the options that were available to me at that time within my price range.

    I’m not saying that my experience was the norm, but dismissing that time, cost, and location are factors is definitely unwarranted in this case.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago

    Context matters, going pure vegetarian and heaven help you vegan. With our access to proper replacement can and will kill you.

    For 99% of people that do go vegetarian or vegan don't have that problem tho. Because they DO have access. So for them it's literally a non issue and perfectly fine and healthy.

    and by anecdotal evidence wise basically every vegan I've ever met has a laundry list of health issues from their diet choice.

    Rarely meet an unhealthy vegetarian tho.

    The real ones that always seem to be in God tier health are the pescatarians. Those fuckers have shit figured out.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    You are just objectively less healthy if you don't have a well rounded diet that includes lean meat.

    Period. The science is there..

    You shouldn't eat lots of meat but some is very beneficial

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    The science says that a little bit of meat is fine, just like a little bit of anything is fine. It doesn't say that no meat is less healthy, and usually says that no meat is, in fact, healthier. I'd even guess that whatever amount you eat is more than the amount that is recommended, especially if you are bragging about eating fish you caught. You could easily get mercury poisoning that way. See that concern trolling?

    We're fucking omnivores. That means we can survive eating just about anything. You think we have to eat meat to live?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    The guy your arguing with's name is "Truth_Hurts" and their account was created like 2 weeks ago. All of their recent comment history is arguments, they even have a ton of comments that were removed by a mod I think. Just give it a rest with that guy, they clearly won't even back up their claims with the bullshit they're spewing.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    It's not him I'm arguing for. It's everyone else that might not realize how fucking dumb he is and needs someone to call him out.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 days ago

    So don't address it to him. Honestly, if you want to correct things he's saying, just do so like you're correcting a 20-year old newspaper article. You don't need to converse with trolls to correct the record.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    I've seen that online and IRL, but to counter, I had a 52-yo vegan gf who ran 5-miles a day, every day, ran marathons when she trained up, closet full of medals. That woman was 5'10" of twisted steel and sex appeal, nothing unhealthy about her.

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