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[–] 196 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Stripping them off plants, yeah thats just damaging the plant itself and is shitty behaviour.

Off the ground? Now its crossing from damage into being pedantic about stuff that would go into a mulcher.

And I highly doubt that those with the patience and skill to propogate make up any significant margin whatsoever.

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  • [–] 125 points 1 day ago (28 children)

    That's the same sort of business owners who would throw away uneaten food in restaurants and not allow employees to take it home.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (25 children)

    That's different because it's a liability thing. Some asshole would sue over bad food which means nobody gets the food.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Americans would rather chuck perfectly good food into a dumpster than entertain the possibility of summoning the collective fucking will to fix a VERY straightforward problem. The idea that they could just legislate some reasonable liability protections and make sure edible food gets to hungry people apparently requires a level of imagination and civic competence beyond anyone's wildest dream. So much easier to blame "some asshole" for creating what is surely an insurmountable legal paradox. The food rots, needy people go hungry, and the US gets to pretend the problem is some unavoidable fact of life rather than admit they just couldn't be arsed to try.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago* (8 children)

    Most stabilized countries have laws in place for food and protections for donations.

    I'm guessing there's rules behind this one but in the US:

    The Food Donation Improvement Act: This act expands those protections. It allows qualified businesses (like restaurants, supermarkets, and schools) to donate food directly to individuals in need rather than having to route it through a registered 501(c)(3) nonprofit intermediary. It also allows nonprofits to charge a nominal "Good Samaritan" fee just to cover the logistics and handling costs of distributing the food.

    I don't know the specifics of that one though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Easier & cheaper to just throw it away, so most businesses probably don't bother. We would need to mandate and/or subsidize this behavior if we wanted people to actually do it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Don't you have to pay for waste disposal?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Sure, but they have stuff to throw away other than food, too, so they're paying for it regardless. Some places in the US make property owners pay for waste disposal separately, but even then it could be a flat fee so the business wouldn't gain anything by throwing less stuff away. Some places just include it in property taxes, in which case, again, the business wouldn't gain anything.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    If you don't fill the bin with food, it takes longer to fill up. So you pay less.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Collection is often on a schedule so it gets emptied regardless.

    It may very well be the case that most American businesses pay by the pound, ton, or bin. I don't know. I do know that in some cases it's a fixed cost, up to the size of a bin within a certain time period, anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    Because the US is only a small handful of people with the same worldview...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    They could donate the food to a food bank and be completely shielded from liability by Good Samaritan Act

    They don't want to because it means that poor people can eat for free (gasp) which might slightly impact the restaurant industry and indirectly reduce their profit margin by 0.1%

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    You are disregarding the storage and transportation of food that has a very limited shelf life along with requiring strict temperature control. It's not as simple as tossing it all into a bag at the end of the night. It's a significant logistical overhead.

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    The skill involved for many plants is sticking it in the ground and leaving it to do its thing.

    Ask the 5 kale plants on my bathroom window. Got to transfer them to individual pots at some point. Then see if I can get a few more cuttings to make some more. Not sure how many to grow, 10-20 probably but I still need to put up bird netting in the area I plan to put them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    In my limited experience (I found a succulent leaf on the street) the only skill one would need is to remind themselves to water it, like once a week maybe. All you have to do is drop it into a pot with some soil and water it every now and then. Maybe some succulents are more finicky though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    *Also, it's pretty cool to watch. Like the original leaf slowly shrinks and dries out as the new leaves are formed.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago

    I have succulents on my balcony that outgrow their pots. I break off chunks long enough to have a few root-hairs attached and drop them into the scruffy area at the side of the building. They can't really root themselves there unless we get a bunch of rain, but I've seen a few people take one and it always makes me happy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I've got a couple succulents, and leaves will fall off and propagate on their own in the pot pretty often. All they really have to do is fall stem-side down into the dirt and it'll grow roots and form a new plant. I just gave my buddy a small jade plant that grew from my larger plant that was originally itself a small auto-propagation from my dad's plant.

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  • To add on to this: a lot of customers are probably people who have the patience and skill to propogate. (As others have said, propagation isn't really that hard, so it's more about patience and time.) At the same time, if you have the patience and skill to propogate a plant and are still at a greenhouse buying plants, it's probably because you're specifically looking to buy a plant where someone has already done that work for you. You're not going to proplift a plant instead of buying it, because you're there specifically to buy something instead of doing that work.

    Propagating plants and growing them from seeds is a longer process that's prone to failure and can take time. It's very common for gardeners to propogate/grow from seed some plants while also buying others that are already more mature in order to eliminate that process or because all their tomatoes this year died and they need new ones.

    Sure, maybe every now and again you get someone who's there to buy something else, sees a dropping from a plant they want that they might have otherwise bought, and grabs it, but as you said, that's really not common enough to cut into their margins. You're consistently paying for the saved time and effort when buying plants at greenhouses.

    Now, if the greenhouse itself makes a habit of taking fallen plant bits to propogate new ones, that does change things a little bit, because you're taking something they were going to use. But if it's just going into the mulcher, who the fuck cares.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    We got free water at Lowe's outdoor lawn and garden so I'd stuff plants I found throughout my shit in one.

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