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Hot take: Strongest creatures in the setting shouldn't just be clowned by PCs with no resistance. (europe.pub)
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Inspired by frustrating conversation I had. For those curious, that was the statblock of Caine, father of the vampires.

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[–] 61 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The dog on the left is such a strawman lol. Those who would say such a thing are few and far between. I know plenty of DMs and players who think the PCs' combat encounters should be challenging and even lethal.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The number of times my cleric/sorcerer has had to revivify the rest of his party…

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If you ain't dying, you ain't trying.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It is actually bad game design in the sense that there really isn't a decent mechanic to escape monsters.

    5.0 orcs, for example, had double the speed of the average PC with their dumbass free move action.

    The solution is rolling disengage as a series of skill checks (like World of Darkness would...) but then you have to explain how, exactly, a dude in full plate escapes a dragon.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    D&D, especially 5e, is just missing broad sections of game stuff so it can "leave it up to the DM". Other stuff is really underbaked. Degree of success, succeed at a cost, non-violent conflict, ending combat other than totally wiping the other factions...

    That can be fine if everyone's on the same page, but since D&D is the mega popular game you're likely to be playing with new players, or just randos, and that can lead to tension.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Pre-firearm plate armor was pretty lightweight, lots of videos of people running and rolling and climbing in it. Is D&D supposed to only be like jousting armor where you can't move? I've never been clear on this and I'm more willing to look like a twerp about it on here than with a DM in person

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    May be few and far between but I can vouch for it; I had a party like that whom I hated DMing or playing with in their games. Myself though I am as you said someone who prefers the challenge; both exist in large numbers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To be fair, starting at around level 13 it becomes more challenging to, well, challenge a party without having dragons and shit everywhere. You can almost not build encounters with "normal" enemies anymore.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Before my group got bored with D&D and we decided to give it a break and switch to Mage, it got to a level I was prepping to have the this level 13 party fight Vecna and Zariel at once, just to make it at least a little hard.

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