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What if we were just a lil evil? (europe.pub)
submitted 1 year ago* by to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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What if we were *just a lil evil*?
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[–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I can help.

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Hello! Are you thinking about hosting your own email? Do you enjoy having a life? Do you want to deal with spf and dkim records? Having to add more storage space? Backing up said emails following the 3-2-1 guide? Finding out your residential ISP blocks port 25?

I didn’t think so, and neither do I. Go pay to have someone else host your email.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    Yea, I should definitely write something up so bollocks like this does not proliferate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Please do.

    Be sure to also put how much time people can realistically expect to spend on each step (including offsite backup and recovery).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Been running my own server for 15 years. I need to put about 20 hours maintenance a year in for updates. I have the whole thing automated as a helm chart using PVCs with cert-manager for auto-renewal and the node just runs k3s as a single node.

    That's a lot of extra layers, but the layer of seperation between the host and the services makes it very easy to automate all the pain away.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    20 hours per year is far too many hours of my time, and you're past the point of having to spend the time architecting it. You also have the operational costs of whatever you decide to host on, along with your backups.

    Imo, paying $100 or even $200 a year is a steal in comparison

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I pay $300 for 3 years with SSD nodes.

    I never have to worry about the company hosting my mail going corrupt, being sold, or being coerced into giving access to my data without just cause.

    You undervalue the cost of maintaining the trust with a provider

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, now you have to worry about your data being seized at the data center level.

    And, because it’s in a data center, it can be seized/copied without you even knowing about it!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Its encrypted at rest, so good luck, but you still have to worry about this from your provider. You have to also worry about if they would even tell you if they knew that was happening, and you have to worry about what they are doing on top of that.

    I have a single layer to worry about, and likely going to solve that with moving the mail storage to a home server and only having the postfix mail-exchanger in the cloud.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    So what you're telling me is that...

    I have to use DNS for email to work?

    And if I ever need more storage, I have to plug in a disk?

    And If I want to keep my data I actually have to back it up somehow?

    And I need to forward a port or if that's not possible directly though my ISP, use another service that offers it?

    Sorry, none of that is much of a revelation.

    Sarcasm aside, while hosting your own email is not as easy as a lot of people make it out to be, it is definitely not as hard as you are describing either.

    If anything the hardest part is not even in your list, it would probably be getting enough people to mark your domain as not spam to get yourself lifted out of automated spam filtering systems.

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