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Plex Announces Massive Price Hike on Lifetime Subscription Plans (www.ign.com)
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Plex has announced a massive price increase on the service's Lifetime Plex Pass. On July 1, the lifetime subscription option will go from $249.99 to $749.99, an increase of 200%. The price hike will only apply to new subscribers, with no changes to monthly or annual subscription pricing.

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[+] -11 points 4 months ago (21 children)

And Plex doesn't require any. It's okay to accept that one product can be more polished than the other, and Plex has a lot of stuff that "just works"

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    And Plex doesn't require any. It's okay to accept that one product can be more polished than the other, and Plex has a lot of stuff that "just works"

    And it is ok to accept that Plex is getting worse and worse. Only reason why ppl use it these days is because they still have an old lifetime pass. As soon as they take it away or introduce a new tier of features or even removing features of it, they will swarming away from Plex.

    And they will!

    OC never said anything to do with your comment, you seem to be really offended by recommending an alternative to a tool that you use.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    Jellyfin also „just works“. Getting it going is just as simple as plex.

    Have you tried Jellyfin?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    This is the most hilarious lie I think I've seen in a while from open source on here. To be clear I use it as my daily driver, I switched off Plex a long time ago when I saw the writing on the wall.

    But I still have issues with media matching to this day, issues where subtitles on certain devices just refuse to display no matter what you do. And the server still loves to randomly take up absolutely massive amounts of memory for seemingly no reason whatsoever I ended up making a strip to just forcibly kill it and restart it every 12 hours to prevent it from eating the entire system's memory.

    And no my file naming is not the media issue everything I do is properly named exactly as jelly fin documentation says it wants by sonarr. Not to mention you are expected to maintain a VPN system just for accessing your media away from home as the web interface is so hilariously unsecured as to be a constant source of major system vulnerability.

    It's usable, but it's not as just works as Plex I have thousands of TV shows, anime, and movies as in thousands of each of those categories and Plex never once failed to match to the correct media, never had a problem just playing subtitles on any client, and I think only ever had one major issue with the web interface in terms of security? There's been lots of minor ones that would give people essentially just access to Plex but not the underlying system

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (12 children)

    I'll admit I haven't really looked into it, but how is the Jellyfin web interface insecure? I don't currently, but in the past I've used ssh reverse port forwarding to my VPS and then used an Apache proxy and letsencrypt for ssl on a subdomain. Maybe I was just lucky, but I never had any problems.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    It has had a pretty high number of RCE exploits including one recently the architecture of the web service is just very poor and leads to a lot of basic problems.

    Personally I am not a fan of the language they chose, and I think it directly leads to a lot of these problems but that's just like my opinion man.

    The server itself also has tons of issues like the constant memory leaks that cause it to eat up endless amounts of memory that they don't seem interested in fixing and basically once again push it to the users to deal with and a bunch of the boot lickers are like yeah you just need to put it in a Docker and limit its maximum memory as if that's just normal and expected to need to do

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Ah, yeah, guess I never realized it's a .NET program. Never understood why an open source dev would choose .NET, but what can you do.

    Also despise Docker (especially the modern over-reliance on it), but that always gets me into trouble when I admit that publicly.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I am right there with you on the docker hate I get the idea but the docker system itself is a huge problem. The amount of people that do not realize it completely bypasses system firewalls is very sad and unfortunate and leaves a lot of people vulnerable.

    I personally try to use lxc containers that I set up myself for containerizing services and install them natively within the container

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (8 children)

    It has had a pretty high number of RCE exploits including one recently the architecture of the web service is just very poor and leads to a lot of basic problems.

    So they had an RCE that got fixed therefore the software is bad and insecure. Therefore every OS and basically any enterprise software that was ever used is insecure.

    Got it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (7 children)

    That would be the case, however the devs official stance is it's unsafe and should not be used other than over vpn. So they also agree

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    But for complete other reasons than RCEs or similar.

    As an FOSS project that inherited lots of shitty code this is basically the best thing they could do.

    Not sure why, but you get specific about once RCE but not about other problems and keep vague about them. Is it the lack of understanding or disingenuousness?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Once? No jellyfin has had about 4 major RCE issues since the fork. At least 4 that I'm aware of. Blaming it on the previous code only makes sense if the split is recent. They have had time to completely rewrite if they really want.

    I'd like to see plex die entirely, but I know too many less technical people that use it . They are not going to set up a VPN , end of story end of discussion. And I'm not going to tell them to use jellyfin when it will likely continue to have major security issues and could compromise their systems. I have no doubt that Plex leadership is fully aware of this, they know that even with them pushing more subscriptions and higher costs they are going to continue to have users because the alternatives are just not able to keep up and are not viable for the average person just the technical users which they would have lost to alternatives regardless

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Once? No jellyfin has had about 4 major RCE issues since the fork. At least 4 that I'm aware of. Blaming it on the previous code only makes sense if the split is recent. They have had time to completely rewrite if they really want.

    It absolutely makes sense, otherwise they would have had to throw everything away.

    The EFcore refacotring was like 6 years in the making.

    And all that from just a few single ppl. Look at the ckntributer list, and how many contribution. Not many active devs are working on jellyfin on their free time. The problems that jellyfin has, is not from a lack of trying but a from a lack of finger and arms.

    And you need to take it like it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ok? I will take it like it is. Jellyfin is a flawed product not currently suitable to replace Plex for the average person and is only particularly usable by technically inclined users capable of protecting themselves through VPN or other means. As well as dealing with things like failed matched media and memory leaks that are frequent.

    That is how it is, and that's how I've been taking it from the start.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, not really. But what should i expect from someone who states as an 'objective opinion' "I do not like the programming language so the project is bad"

    If i had to guess, since you are jumping on the memory leaks, you got an issue, reported it and did not get treatet like they fix it with a priority.

    You keep jumping on "They had an RCE so the security must be completely broken"

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Actually, i mentioned the memory leaks as it's been a consistent issue for years now. Again normal people cant and won't setup special containers with memory limits as a crappy work around.

    You may not like that i don't blindly glaze jellyfin because it's open source. However I'm just being realistic about what it needs to actually be a viable replacement for plex for the masses.

    It needs to be able to match media properly, it still struggles with this even when you go out of your way to make sure the media is named in the exact manner the documentation dictates. It needs to be able to be used remotely simply through the web, having to set up a VPN is not a viable approach, it needs to be able to function long-term without eating up all the system's memory and requiring regular restarts to prevent it from going out of control. Subtitles need to work on all clients, as it stands right now Roku subtitles are non-functional like 80% of the time no matter what you do, some TV browsers struggle with it as well.

    I am sorry that that upsets you, but it is the reality and it is the reason the projects like these tend to mostly be used by the technically inclined. Including myself, I was able to put it in an unprivileged secured lxc container, so that I could use it through the web and set memory limits, but most people cannot and will not do that. I would prefer to see it be successful and be able to tell everyone never touch Plex again, but I know that telling people it's ready to go while it has a myriad of basic issues is not helpful.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    And the memory leaks get closed one after another? Dont they? Just because there are still issues does not mean it gets improved upon.

    Media matching is no issue if you follow the naming sheme.

    I am not upset at all, not sure why you think that.

    Jellyfin will and connot be the replacement you wish it to be. Exposing something to the Internet is not a solution for the normal person. Heartbeat, Log4shell etc. etc. all of those are the reason why, not necessarily the service you are hosting by itself.

    Especially in an age where tailscale is available to install on every major smart TV or other devices i do not get why you even want to recommend ppl to expose it.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    I install Jellyfin using docker, go to the web address, make the credentials for it and I am up and running.

    For Plex you need to do that whole gain ownership song and dance which is a pain if you don't have full console and file access like on TrueNas.

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