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They don't even understand their job (cdn.blahaj.zone)
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[–] -1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I agree with what you’re saying in general, but most code out there doesn’t need to be high quality. There is no reason for anyone to design a web page manually in 2026 for example, AI will do it faster and cheaper than any human can dream of. And the code itself is incapable of causing issues, it’s just markdown/css. However even for high-quality code, if you look at benchmarks the top models produce higher quality code than the majority of devs.

As for losing understanding of our code, I agree but I suppose it’s the price to pay for productivity. Besides, it’s not like I understand Joe’s 30 years old ugly code any better than if AI had written it. At least AI has the decency to include comments.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    How much web development experience do you personally have? Like, from before AI tooling?

    Once your website is more complicated than a static marketing site, I don't think AI is going to do it better. Some of the problems, like slopsquatting might be around for a long time. Possibly forever.

    And the code itself is incapable of causing issues, it’s just markdown/css.

    ...what?

    However even for high-quality code, if you look at benchmarks the top models produce higher quality code than the majority of devs.

    Doing the wrong thing faster is not an improvement.

    At least AI has the decency to include comments.

    From what I've seen of AI comments, it's not really helpful. It's illusionionary confidence.

    As for losing understanding of our code, I agree but I suppose it’s the price to pay for productivity.

    That's very expensive technical debt, or a massive de-skilling of labor.

    Do you own a business? If you don't, why would you dig your own grave here?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Honestly, I’ve only done web dev around 10 years ago and found it so mind-dumbing I left after a year. I have however had AI code a dashboard last year, roughly ~20k lines of mostly front-end and have yet to have heard of any issues from the ~30 people using daily. Why then would I have done this manually in a week when the AI did it better in an hour and $5?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Why then would I have done this manually in a week when the AI did it better in an hour and $5?

    Some reasons may include

    • once you have the skills, it won't take a week
    • once you have the skills, you learn them. They're yours, not rented
    • you are better able to make changes to it
    • you can be much more confident it doesn't have any horrible issues like exposing keys in plain text
    • less odds of other issues, like redundant or strange code

    Some of this comes down to "why bother learning anything?"

    I don't know what your dashboard does. I made a simple display at an old job that showed some stats about new user signups. It took like an hour or two, and I'd never used the particular front end library before.

    Edit: lines of code is a poor metric* but even so 20k seems like a lot

    *For example, the difference between

    function add(a, b) { 
  return a + b;
}

    and

    const add = (a,b) => a + b
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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    But why would I care about spending a week learning front end stuff when I can spend that week learning stuff that’s actually important for my job? Even had I actually learned it I’d have forgotten by next time I have to use it since too long would have passed.

    There’s no glaring issue as big as exposing keys, I’m not that dumb, I don’t let AI have those. There is 100% some redundant code, AI likes to make 10 helpers that do variants of the same thing, but right now it works and still shows no signs of breaking down a year later. I’d do it again in a heartbeat.

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