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So where's that miraculous cure, then? (europe.pub)
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[–] 5 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The kind of crappy art generation is vastly different than the types of AI used in drug discovery.

In fact drug discovery is a pretty good problem for AI to help solving.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    They aren't using chatbots to do it. It's almost a completely different technology.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

    Yes, but the problem is that the techbros pushing crappy AI and text generation are doing so while disingenuously implying (or often outright stating) that their product is eventually going to revolutionize the world by also magically curing cancer or whatever the hell else if we provide them just one more datacenter, bro. Except that it categorically cannot.

    Specialized machine learning tools are specialized tools for the specific clearly defined use cases for which they are designed and intended (edit). The commercial LLM and diffusion image generators, meanwhile, serve no beneficial purpose whatsoever other than burning electricity, spreading lies, and making people dumber.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    I mean this is where we have to disagree, I think there are loads of benefits from the technologies. But capitalism is the wrong motivator... "How can we make money out of this?" don't make me puke. It should be free for all, to cure cancer, to decipher ancient languages, to model the climate etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    How the fuck is an ass kissing chatbot going to help you model the climate?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Not everything is a fucking chat bot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    "AI", the way everybody uses it today, means "ass-kissing chatbot". That's what Jensen means, that's what Satya means, that's what the investors think it means, that's what the people reading scripts on the news mean. Oh, excuse me, I meant to say "super intelligence".

    We have neural nets, machine learning, adaptive systems, automated translation, context completion, all kinds of terms for the stuff that actually does useful stuff.

    That's not what the trillion dollars is getting spent on

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    There's no point having a discussions with people like me that are intractable when it comes to the technology and are acutely aware of the USA capitalist ruling class and the atrocities they commit and enable, with people that are unable and unwilling to understand what a model is, and are approaching computer science like a luddite.

    The USA capitalists are having you lick their boots when you think that "AI" = ChatGPT. You're not 'chatting' with anything. You, me, and many others, are constantly falling for their marketing shit all the time. Don't bite!

    If you can differentiate between a stack of PS3s that made a 'super computer' to try to predict what the weather will be tomorrow and the USA building a datacenter, poisoning your water, denying you electricity, stealing your capital, surveiling you, and influencing your decisions, then we can definitely sit together and use our brains to dismantle the infrastructure of oppression. Your enemy is not 'conversation simulators', its capitalism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    My first class in machine learning was in the 90s, I worked in a megacorp leading multiple teams of people whose primary job was training and running (pre-gpt) high throughput ML classifiers.

    I worked with this shit to pay my mortgage and feed my kids, I was decent at it too. One of the guys I worked with came from Palantir.

    Nobody called what we were doing AI, ever. There was money on the line, it wasn't something we could just halfass and appeal to the machine god for. We had angry customers when we fucked up.

    Nobody was calling automated medical scans AI, nobody was calling dynamic annealing for searching a solution space AI. Nobody was calling climate modeling AI.

    Calling all that preexisting and ongoing stuff AI feels like the branding exercise to me.

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