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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Wealth inequality is the cause of almost every single economic and social issue in existence.

If young men had the money to have agency in their lives they would be living life instead of living with their parents to save money while seeking validation through internet fascists.

If school wasn't desigend to be a day care service for Capitalists our children would be properly socialized with the different sexes/genders before getting the chance to grow up into incels.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I call it economic infantilization.

Back in 1960 US minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the average US home was $11,000.00 A brand new car was around $2,500.00 A teenager could move out of the house and be self supporting and grade school kid could work hard and pay for a car on their 18th birthday.

It's hard to feel like an independent adult when you can't afford anything.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 162 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Raising kids these days must be a real minefield with all this toxic culture being so accessible.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Fundamentalist religion is at the top of the toxic culture, and it has been around since before the incel term.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 104 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

How can we help them make more friends? How can we get them involved in real-world activities that will diminish their time spent online?

By locking them into suburban houses with no places to go without being driven by their parents, until they're old enough to drive. 🇺🇸🇨🇦

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 70 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And then making cars impossibly expensive, teenage boys uninsurable as drivers, wages hilariously low, and reliable transportation a prerequisite for employment.

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[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't these guys misusing blackpilled? I thought it was specifically for suicide not just going NEET? Which like we should talk about but not through this corporate productivity-washed drivel.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If you also didn't know

"Not in Education, Employment or Training", its an acronym for people that don't go to school, don't work and are mot looking for work.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (28 children)

Seems like a huge part of the problem is equating "self-worth" to "getting laid".

Putting your dick in a woman doesn't make you any more of a man / successful / worth more than anyone else.

Societal expectations need to be rejected. Oh, success is measured by your ability to get married, have a house, and raise your 2.5 children? For a vast majority, NONE OF THAT IS CURRENTLY SUSTAINABLE AND/OR OBTAINABLE. So why bother? Right?

I get it. It ain't right, but I get it.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Putting your dick in a woman doesn’t make you any more of a man

Yeah, puting a man's dick in you makes you more of a man.

[–] gay_sex@mander.xyz 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Assuming a penis weighs about 0.1 kilograms^1, and the average weight of a man is around 90 kilograms[^2], we can assume that you will be roughly 0.11% more man!!!

(BY MASS)The measure may be different if we calculate by a change in volume.

[^2]: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320917 ; https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/average-weight-for-men

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 86 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Sooooo… when are we gonna admit that men’s mental health is unfortunaly heavily tied to their career prospects?

No, not yet?

Okay I’ll keep waiting.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 109 points 4 days ago (19 children)

sigh

It's capitalism.

Men's well being wouldn't be tied to career prospects if it weren't for the rat race we are all brainwashed into since birth that is capitalism.

You have worth as a human beyond your capacity to produce profit.

[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 70 points 4 days ago (42 children)

Yeah and the reason young men are finding it hard to have real life friends and end up on uncle forums is because we lost most of our “third spaces” thanks to them not making money and shutting down or being underfunded or closed if they were publicly owned.

Ontop of this the constant algorithms that push specific topics to people over and over due to it keeping them on the platform and therefore generates income.

It does feel like 75% of this problem could be fixed by stopping corporate greed and fixing our local communities as whole.

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[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What a terrible article. NEETS and lie flat movement has almost no overlap with incels.

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ostensibly the whole world has been online for enough time now. Yet everyone continues to demonstrate a remarkable lack of ability to grasp internet cultures.

It makes no sense. Like trying to explain technology to my elderly grandma. Except she knows she's very old and out of touch. What's everyone elses excuse. It's made even worse because everyone else thinks they are digitial culture savvy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

It's intentional to cause infighting and and to help build the association between neets and incels.

Ars Technica is owned by Conde Nast media conglomerate, which is owned by Advanced Publications, which is owned and controlled by the billionaire Newhouse Family.

That's why Steve Newhouse wants these types of articles to be written, because it obfuscates truth and pushes division.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

And what do you base that of? It's incredibly easy to identify the cause of that overlap...

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Reading these comments makes understanding why the world is in its current state, extremely easy

Keep preaching and applying that brand of empathy guys, it will surely pay off eventually

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 48 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"It's important to remember that it's not zero-sum. We can care about the well-being of women and girls and also acknowledge that young men are struggling, too. Those don't have to be at odds."

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US version of Japan's Hikikomori?

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well, everybody in the manosphere is a toxic idiot/asshole, no matter what particular brand of stupidity they follow. It does feel very similar to religion, though. Some sects might be more violent, but they all follow some made-up shit.

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