You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.

I think there is a lot to be said for the emotional load someone like Hasan deals with. We are talking thousands of death threats and vitriol, swatting, psyops, debate bros etc etc. The soul sucking is mental and different, not going to assume this was him saying he has it harder like this out of context meme is trying to portray.

“A real job” I guess does a lot of work here.

There’s nothing more demoralizing than being on a “make work” job, where you’re so silod off from the world there’s no connection from what you do to any meaningful outcome.

And that defines an incredibly large chunk of corporate jobs.

It’s why in goulogs and concentration camps they make prisoners break rocks.

I've actually attempted live streaming. It totally sucks the joy out of sitting in front of a computer and zoning out playing your game. You start to go "Oh no I can't play this game cuz I'm playing it on stream."

I wasn't majorly successful but I still made affiliate and had some regular watchers. The pressure to create content and be entertaining and stay engaged was too much for me and continue doing it all for the paltry sums that I was getting.

I could also feel the pressure to become someone I'm not to reach more people. Something I refused to do. In the end though I made enough money streaming to make up for all the equipment I bought for it. I ran out of real time to stream when I got a new job that demanded more time from me. I am making so much more money so much faster by just clocking in and out every day and i feel like I'm building my skills in the field I'm in instead of making me hate my entertainment options.

I think I actually believe him when he says its soul-sucking. He's obviously missing a lot of perspective on what he calls 'real jobs', but that doesn't mean there isn't an emotional toll from what amounts to being a clown whose paycheck is derived from the whims of literally faceless masses

I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism. If you left out the "in the same way" as well.

He's right, normal jobs don't completely take over your life or get you stalkers and death threats or make it impossible to exist in public without being harrassed. Success as a streamer is like any other kind of fame in that it results in a bunch of extra bullshit above and beyond the actual work that is uniquely psychologically exhausting.

I don't have any further context, but he's got a point.

Sure, physical jobs are physically demanding and the monotony can be taxing. Even customer service jobs are mentally and emotionally taxing, but at the end of the day you're just a rando in a uniform. You're selling your skills and labor, you can be yourself off the clock.

Streaming is selling your personality, your perspectives, your values. With lots of viewers, you're exposing yourself to criticism for every opinion you express. You basically live every day with your identity under the microscope of thousands of anonymous critics. Either you deal with constant character attacks, or you commodify your personality until it's basically unrecognizable.

"Real jobs" don't really attack your soul in the same way, because your soul isn't the product. Aside from certain kinds of celebrities that are basically streamers anyway, it is a pretty unique struggle. At least actors are portraying characters, and can separate themselves from their roles. Streamers are the roles. The line between self and curated content is pretty heavily blurred, it really is a singular kind of soul-sucking.

"look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!"

there's a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo "democrats" right now, because obviously he's the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.

when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.

remember hasan's dog? don't think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don't think about their support for funding israel's genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn't talking about israel or billionaires!

etc.

i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.

if there's was ever a time to be picky about hasan's choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.

I do think the streamer may have a point, but only in a bullshit jobs way. A job that actually improves the world has a sense of satisfaction that a job that's either harmful or pointless lacks, and the latter does some damage to the psyche

That said, he could you know, change careers

Breaks my heart witnessing the struggle he has to go through day by day, selflessly giving his all, slaving away under the thumb of damn capitalist pigs. Stay strong comrade, working class unite 🫶

If my body wasn't so busted I would prefer general labor. Over almost any desk job. I hate it. I don't have a chat section. At least with general labor i felt like i actually did something of worth at the end of the day.

Honestly the more I hear Hassan quotes the more I like him.

Many real jobs, especially low income ones do in fact suck the soul out of you. I have tried for y'all.

Nah he's right. I'm in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can't even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who's effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.

i challenge you to suffer his stupid fucking chat for a day... a lot of people would prefer back breaking labor.

Every day I sit at my office desk and long for the days when honest work stocking shelves was my sole responsibility. It kept me active and it kept my mind occupied. I hate having an office job. I hate that I can’t eat junk food and I have to utilize my free time exercising. I hate my vapid and fake burgois coworkers. I hate the industry I’m in. I hate the politics. I hate the smell of the communal bathroom. I hate the finance bros. If I’m short on sleep, I always fantasize about the whole place burning down and the people I wouldn’t miss or even feel a modicum of empathy for. The office has soured my soul… it is a compete removal of the human from their natural environment and purpose.

well a streamer is a wealthy persons game, most of them come form wealthy families, or well off its not like they have a job themselves. like some new ones about pets, how did you afford a house and getting married right out of college yea the parents paid for it?. some of these people look like they just graduated HS and have a house already/apartment. even though the 2 pet ones i followed seem nice, i wonder how you afford living on your own at 19-22, and it did not look like a shitty 1bedroom apartment, looks like a whole house, or a small one.

Stop giving fuckheads attention. It's the only way we can prevent further idiocracy. Attention focus matters.

I ain't saying physical labor isn't soul sucking, but here's a video on what it's like to be a creator subject to the Skinner box of YouTube.