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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] Kompressor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

'but if they aren't hungry and homeless where will their motivation to become professionals and have children come from?' they are actually this fucking stupid.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the US in total is a right-wing place that thinks that "hard work" is the way of life, and anybody who doesn't adhere to that is a "drug-addict" or a psychopath.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is wildly ironic because billionaires don’t actually work.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

*working and grifting

where grifting essentially means forcing your subordinates to work harder

[–] JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Alright I'll bite, even if Hairplug Himmler is right (and let's be perfectly clear, he's not).

Why wouldn't we as Americans want to help our fellow citizens overcome drug use, treat mental illness, and help rehabilitation efforts on their behalf?

ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE "VIOLENT" and "on the street". Wouldn't we want to help them get off the streets?

Wouldn't that make us safer, happier, healthier, and dare I say... Great Again? Wouldn't that protect citizens and police officers alike at a lower cost than incarceration? (Spoiler alert it would, but there's no private for profit companies offering this service).

Wouldn't these people become tax payers? Employees contributing to society? Become future homebuyers and start a family?

These empathy lacking neo-fascist clowns can't stop punching down to those less fortunate (while claiming the lords name in vain) and I can't wait for the day we get the opportunity to match their empathy as they head to prison (preferably one in El Salvador).

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm surprised he chose to express his point in this manner. Unless this is an expression of humanity from Mr Musk that we're so otherwise unaccustomed to that it's hard to recognise, then I assume he wants to persuade people to have less empathy or sympathy for homeless people, not more. This statement, taken at face value would seem to suggest that contrary to what some may think, homeless people are facing significant challenges not of their own making that have contributed directly to their circumstances.

I'm going to guess that's not how he meant it

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A billionaire is the equivalent of a person sitting in a cafeteria who bought every piece of food in the restaurant kitchen and doesn't want to share any of it with the thousand people sitting around him even though he'll never be able to eat all the food they bought.

Owning and controlling so much wealth that you'll never be able to enjoy everything you have in a lifetime isn't a success or a sign of intelligence .... it's a mental illness. Especially when all that wealth and control could mean the life or death of thousands or millions of people everywhere.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are exceptions. Warren Buffet (as an example) has given away a large fraction of his wealth, and pledged/planned to give 99% of it over his lifetime (he is 94). It's a sane strategy to let his shares appreciate and “maximize” his charity.

For a billionaire, he lives modestly and speaks reasonably. He has a sanely sized house. His kids are getting an inheritance, but not a stupidly large one.

Look, I want to tax the shit out of billionaires too, I just object to blanket labeling any group as mentally ill. You know, like Musk did in OP's post.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

where does he even get that idea? i never heard people refer to Elon as homeless.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not sure what you mean.

Edit: I'm dumb. The joke is that Elon is a drug addict. Hit me a few minutes later.

[–] tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a joke. He's implying that Elon is a violent drug addict with severe mental illness. Which is, of course, true.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks. Got it just in time to edit my comment and then see your reply. I'm a dummy.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's amazing that a man who does enough ket to bring down a racehorse even dares to use the phrase "drug addict" as an insult.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not unusual for addicts to displace blame onto the people around them in order to justify their addictions.

The difference between Musk, Thiel, et al and your average American junkie is simply their line of credit. They can keep taking experimental intoxicants, safe in the knowledge their friends will loan them another $2M the next time they wrap their McLauren around a stop sign.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Remind me: why do we want mentally-ill drug addicts on our streets again?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Let's say, for sake of argument, that Elon is correct. Should we not be helping people with severe mental illness?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I can’t speak for Elon (and will not defend him) but Kyle (from Secular Talk) is dramatically underestimating the problem by tossing out the $20 billion figure. You can’t just throw a bunch of money at a person with severe mental illnesses and addictions and just expect them to be okay.

The state of California has spent over $24 billion on homelessness since 2019 yet the number of homeless people in the state has grown by 20%. Obviously they aren’t spending the money wisely in a manner that would maximize reduction of homelessness, but Kyle didn’t specify how the money should be spent either. Perhaps that’s actually the hard problem: how do you spend the money in the way that would be most effective?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

He is a literal NAZI! So he wants mentaly ill to suffer for losing the gene lottery!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

having been homeless…

the fuck is he talking about and who the fuck does he think he's fooling

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Himself and his other techbro friends that couch surfed for a while, aka violent drug addicts with severe mental health issues.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just more of the same from his class. Wants everyone to believe in a meritocracy, because that means he's rely great, and the people whose lifeblood he drained to get where he is aren't victims - they're just inferior. They wouldn't be where they are if they were superior like him.

Probably a guillotine wouldn't even work on him, he's so superior. Hypothetically.

[–] _druid@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

So the mentally ill deserve to be left to rot in the streets? Why else have a social safety net, if not for them?

[–] murmurations@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One of the talking points in South Africa goes like this:
The "homeless" black people that live in corrugated metal slums all have mansions that were stolen from white people and given to them by the government when apartheid ended.
They choose to live in slums to work in the cities, and go back to their mansions when they're not working. Alternatively, they don't live at their mansions because they are too lazy/dumb to actually take care of the property.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hahaha that's gold. It's kind of hard for me to accept anybody really believes that. Feels like some disingenuous conviction there or deliberately not examining the statement because they know on at least one level it's too completely illogical to be true but then again there are some people who've had such serious distortions to their reasoning over time that they're not even lying anymore when they claim to believe this stuff.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Several times in the US I've been told that people flying a sign are actually rich from all the money they are given. Totally absurd but people believe it. Mansions they don't live in is on another level though

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why does "violent drug addicts with severe mental illness" mean somehow they shouldn't be helped anyways?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depressing fact: Most of the homeless people you see acting all crazy and talking to themselves all the time behaved normally when they started being homeless. It's spending years in complete isolation, being constantly ignored by everyone around you and having no one to talk to that makes you act like this.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t jump to that though. Most working homeless live out of a car or couch surf, while not doing that.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

To add into that, most homeless are just normal people that fell on hard times, you won't see them cause they don't want to be a bother. You see the crazies because... Well they're crazy. Gigantic assholes like musk assume that since you see crazy homeless people wandering outside, then obviously ALL homeless people are crazy violent lunatics. He is the smartest person in the world after all.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Remember, they are saying what would need to be true to justify what they plan to do. This should be read as Elon declaring intent to put homeless people in camps.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

TIL Elon Musk is homeless.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wild claim, considering Musk is one of the most violent drug addicts who has ever lived.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

So those people you're talking about, Elon... They have homes? No? Then homelessness isn't a lie, you gigantic sack of human waste.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Even taking his bullshit argument at face value, he thinks the best solution for these violent drug addicts is to leave them out of the street? Who is the audience here? If you literally think they are all violent, why is leaving them free to roam around the right solution?

I know it's all about money and grandstanding on his part but this definitely seems like some under-the-influence kind of deep thoughts.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Coming from someone who has never experienced it, nor has anyone in his family history. That is what needs to change in every billionaires life. Make them homeless foa few years and see how they handle it

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sadly they can't experience it. Not really.

I remember awhile ago there was some grifter YouTube channel that was posting "Homeless to $100k" videos.

Like even in their made up scenario the first thing they do is ask a friend for a place to stay and some cash.

Like, that's literally the hardest step and they just act like it's so simple to the point of not even addressing it.

Most of the difference between people that end up in the final stage of homelessness and people that got back on their feet is the support systems that are available to them.

Which is why people that work to end homelessness do a lot of work focusing on keeping people from even getting to that last stage of homelessness in the first place. It's much easier for our society to provide safetynets long before anyone ends up on the street addicted to drugs.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, that is kinda nonsense. Germany and austria, for example have a lot of support networks for people in need, we even have entire networks dedicated to supporting homeless people, so nobody has to be homeless here - yet we do have a lot of them. For some people, homelessness is almost a choice more than an involuntary decision.

Obviously, idk how this would be in america, but I don't think it would be a lot different.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon spouts BS all the time, but $20 billion to end homelessness is some of the biggest bullshit I've ever heard.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You should have some sympathy for Musk, since apparently you also like to talk out of your ass without looking into it.

https://aah-inc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/whomeless.pdf

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 3 weeks ago

I work serving the homeless. We spent $10 billion for one year during COVID just to include all of the students who didn't already get free school meals to have it during that time. Unless you're only providing cots and Porto-johns, that number might work as an annual figure, until inflation hits, or the numbers go up because once you offer free housing, more people will try to become eligible.

Sounds to me like you're the one talking out your ass.

[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These numbers are extremely unsubstantiated. If you think giving someone $40k will permanently save them from homelessness I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let’s see your study. What do you know that HUD experts don’t?

People also said you can’t solve homelessness by giving them homes, and Finland did it with ease.

[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

For example, California spent over $24 billion over a period of five years and didn't even make a dent.

Homelessness is not a simple problem you can just throw money at. People will consistently fall through the societal cracks.