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[–] 134 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Surely the first one should be the other way around, as people without checked luggage can exit the airport right away without waiting at the baggage carousel?

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  • [–] 56 points 5 months ago

    For sure, the first one is absolutely unhinged and is the complete opposite of the second.

    It's like saying the people who are going to have to wait for their fancy coffee, that takes 20 mins to prepare, should all get to go first and black coffee drinkers should let everyone else skip the queue.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Checked luggage as opposed to carry on. If you don't need to rummage around the overhead to find your bag, you get to leave first.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I fly a lot and rarely do I see someone with absolutely nothing on the plane. Having a checked bag by no means excludes you from also having a carry-on

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Yup, same. I almost never see someone without a backpack or something. I often see people without a carry on suitcase, usually because they were forced to gate check it though.

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  • [+] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 82 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Checked luggage.... so that they can get at the bag carousel faster and wait even longer? I think you mean let people with no carry-ons off first.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I always thought that planes would unload much faster if people let the left side go four rows or so ahead so then we have two people collecting things in the aisle at a time instead of one. Or, even more efficient, let people in seat C all get off as one unit, then D, then B, etc.

    There’s no way we would ever organize the absolute animals that take airplanes enough to ever see such a thing though. Any time they say “please stay seated for people with tight connections” I see a bunch of people immediately stand in the aisle and cause a jumble.

    Edit: Someone posted a video about something very similar below.

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  • [–] 77 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    Why would people with checked luggage need to leave the plane first? They are going to be waiting 20~30 minutes for their suitcase at the conveyor belts. They can't hurry even if they wanted to.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    There was an airport that found by moving certain gates around to increase the time to walk to the baggage pickup area, complaints about waiting for luggage to show up dramatically decreased. It does take a few minutes to fully unload the belly of a plane into carts then drive over and unload the carts onto a belt. Even if the crew is fast.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If you've ever flown into an airport in a country like Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, etc, you suddenly realize just how fast and efficient baggage handling can be.

    I don't know if it's still true, but I remember reading that Kansai airport in Osaka Japan has never lost a piece of luggage since it opened in 1994.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I hate that. Sometimes when I disembark after a long flight, I'm tired and uncomfortable and my bag might be heavy, and I don't feel like walking up and down three flights of stairs, wandering through a labyrinth, boarding a shuttle and waiting to get off somewhere else, all before getting to my checked luggage.

    Especially when I get there and it still hasn't arrived yet because the luggage needs to take an extra shuttle too.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago

    People with connections deserve priority deboarding, especially when the first flight was delayed. Some times I've heard attendants saying to do this, but it never successfully happens

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Seems rather racist to let black coffee drinkers have an express line.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    The checked baggage one might make sense if it’s saying that passengers with only checked luggage should exit first. Those passengers would not need to rummage through the overhead bins. The idea still ignores the problem of other passengers themselves taking up space when shuffling around getting out of seats to do this, though.

    If it somehow worked, it wouldn’t make getting out of the airport any faster, but it would make getting off the plane faster.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'll never understand why they don't load back to front (assuming only front loading set ups) ideally in my mind they should kind everyone up by window seat then middle seat then aisle seat. But that should make it challenging to produce because people

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    Everyone here is on about the luggage rule inversion.

    The black coffee idea sounds pretty good at first, until you have to work on a typical espresso machine. After the 4th black coffee the next few teas, americanos or steamings are slow and crap. Unless you add water from a separate boiler, or it's a drip coffee.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    How (and why) would you make tea on an espresso machine?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    The ones I have worked with have a button or twist handle for boiling water. Since it uses it for making espesso anyway, why not have the option to pour some on top of a teabag?

    (I just re-read the question: to clarify, I meant proper, large, three-group espresso machines)

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    First people off the plane should be those with tightest connections, though there's no way to prove that for some forms of transportation.

    I could get behind a rush-time black-coffee-only line, but I almost never buy coffee out unless I'm on vacation anyway

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    We used to have entire coffee shops for black only.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure what airports the OOP fellow has been to, but there are times I've been off the plane really quickly with checked luggage, and all I earn is a longer wait at baggage claim.

    They aren't in any rush at Canadian airports.

    As for the second, there are a myriad of ways to solve that problem:

    • Brew your own coffee.
    • Go to a coffee shop that doesn't have a dessert menu for a coffee list.
    • If you must order at a large mainstream chain, order ahead.
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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    It’s not exactly the same as an express line, but IIRC Starbucks already has a process where if you order brewed black coffee, the cashier dispenses it for you before taking the next customer, rather than turning it over to the baristas’ queue. There are so many things you can say about Starbucks, but failing to understand efficiency is rarely one of them.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I've seen an occasional Tim Horton's location have a separate "coffee only" line, which has always been a misnomer, because they'll invariably just let you order whatever you want anyways; but it does usually go a bit faster because the majority of customers are still honest enough to join the appropriate queue.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    It's maybe better to lock all overhead bins electrically until the door is open. Although there would be still people standing up waiting for the second the bins are unlocked.

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