div {
  display: grid;
  place-content: center;
}

We've come a long way...

Obligatory https://justfuckingusehtml.com/

Oh yes please. But not JavaScript. I use Rust frameworks to avoid all three!

I worked with some pretty dumb people who mocked me for years as the guy who couldn't design a UI to save my life because the product I inherited was designed by someone in the 1990s. it wasn't pretty but it was functional.

any time a UI request came in for the new product and I would try to take it, the PM would pull it and give it to someone else. "oh, their skillset is better suited for UI/UX." I was told.

I got fed up with it and designed my online portfolio. used it to showcase my work and skills even documented my process from mockups to design iteration and final products.

I then posted on linkedin my new portfolio and listed myself as open to connect. within a day the PM made a point to pull up my portfolio on standup and asked me where I got the template. told them, "no template. as you can see in the documentation I designed it from scratch using HTML5 CSS3 and JavaScript. I also included the js packages I used."

they were stunned and immediately started to shuffle some UI tickets my way. I just said, "sorry, my skillset is better served for backend requests."

I quit two months later after a few interviews that seemed to go well. I hated that shithole.

moral of the story? don't discourage people from taking on tasks they aren't obviously suited for. they might just surprise you.

JavaScript frameworks are invented because pure HTML and CSS suck for dynamically loaded pages, and vanilla JavaScript suck in general.

OP, I don't think you've correctly linked to the post (when I visit the linked webpage, the browser tries to download an ActivityPub activity instead of showing the post in the Mastodon web UI). Please replace the link with this one.

Wait until you see what they do to avoid learning SQL or Regex or JSON Pointer or XPath.

real ones learn dhtml

I was so pleased when a brief for a thing at work was "no frameworks".

Damn that's some spicy takes lol.

React sucks and is way way way overdone and ill die on that hill