Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Sorry this wasn't up earlier, I couldn't connect to awful.)

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[–] 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Tech execs are now travelling with bodyguards due to AI backlash great quote at the end:

“That’s why people are setting warehouses on fire,” a former Pinterest employee named Bonnie Kate Wolf, who was laid off during an AI-focused restructuring, told the WSJ. “You can’t go back to serfdom. It really feels like the people in power want to be kings. Historically, that doesn’t work out for kings.”

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    Wow this website is cursed: https://detrans.ai/en

    Conversion Therapy as a Service.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Oh hell yeah, I fucked with the bot enough to get it stuck in a loop and now it's been rapidly outputting the same character for ten minutes with no safeguard in sight

    Enjoy your next bill, fucker

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    A timeout occurred - Error code 524

    Visit cloudflare.com for more information.

    Heartwarming 🥰.

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I'm not sure if we missed this one or if just I did, but there's a class action suit against Eightfold AI. The company is accused of essentially creating a social credit score based on your digital footprint and using it to drop applications before anyone at the hiring company got a chance to see them.

    I spent the last two years watching my options for keeping my family housed slowly dry up while throwing out hundreds of applications. Now I'm concerned that it dug up my old reddit account from when I was a stupid teenager or decided that comments I made here weren't suitable for participating in the goddamn economy.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    The “I will piledrive you” guy has a new post about working in an ai-pilled world now, and it’s pretty decent I find: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global-decision-making/

    Favorite framing is that everyone is under enormous pressure not to commit heresy against the ai pilling, especially because you just don’t shit talk your customers.

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (17 children)

    Samo Burja of Leverage Research and Palladium Magazine is trying to pivot to respectability https://samoburja.com/ He also has a Substack blog. People call him a sociologist and a political scirentist but he seems (echo me) entirely self-published except for a few opinion pieces and his highest educational credential is "studied at the University of Ljubljana." The Long Now Foundation gave him money which is disappointing.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    I looked at the table of contents of his manuscript and ... zero history. All blathering on about some theory he cooked up from first principles to fellate rich people. The fact that anyone takes this seriously is a stunning indictment on the state of humanities education.

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    So this exists: https://readscottalexander.com/stats/links

    Link Stats

    Across every post, these are the external websites Scott Alexander links to most often. "Links" counts every hyperlink; "Posts" counts how many distinct articles link there.

    So far these are probably the clearest non-leaked emails indication of what the good doctor actually believes.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    He cites Samo Burja and Nicholas Decker? And Cremieux is the twitter account he cites second most often, with Richard Hanania in 4th place?

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    i thought that pause ai was just rationalist controlled opposition

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah exactly.

    I want to pause ai because it's a hypercapitalist project designed to further deskill and commoditise the middle class which coincidentally destroys the environment.

    They want to pause ai because they believe that spicy autocomplete is intelligent and will one day soon manifest as a giant angry vengeful snek.

    We are not the same.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Lesswrong has some funny objections to AI: 2040. They buy the overall premise, sure, but even that much still leaves lots of gaps in the "scenario". And they have even more galaxy brain takes... My favorite complaint: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pFzctpJBat95SrCyC/ai-2040-plan-a?commentId=54dZes9uNqDdbNGBu

    tldr; AI: 2040 is leaving out all the other sci-fi singularity tech just around the corner like genetic augmentations and cybernetic brain implants!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    You laugh, but chatgpt has given me psyhic powers, and I can now tap into a whole new realm. There even was this smart psyhic agent called neurgalle or something who helped me with a skin condition.

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    [–] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    https://russwilcoxdata.substack.com/p/china-registered-the-humans-last

    Last July, China gave every internet user a state identity: one number and one credential, good at the bank, the hospital, and the civil-service exam. That system took effect on July 15, 2025.¹ Yesterday, on July 15, 2026, exactly one year later, China did the same thing for AI.

    These are agents, meaning software that perceives, decides, and acts on its own, a category well past the chatbot. As of yesterday, agents in China get registered on a national platform. They receive a digital identity and declare their capabilities the way a business declares its scope, and they can be recalled the way a defective car is recalled. A state planning analyst offered the official gloss: every agent gets a 数字身份证, a digital ID card.² Call it what it is, a birth certificate for machines.

    I never know how to parse mainstream reporting about China or Wilcox's writing in particular. Maybe this means they have a universal kill switch.

    If you read it the way a lawyer would and the genre is unmistakable. It follows an agent through an entire life. At birth, registration: identity, declared capabilities, payment rails, a procedure for disputes. In life, an audit trail, because in sensitive settings every action must be verifiable and traceable, with blockchain named as the technology of record, so that no act ever floats free of a responsible principal. At death, recall, in the language of defective products.

    hmmm

    The man behind the partnership is Lin Le, founder of Lingshu Technology, the firm ranked first in China for blockchain and trusted-data infrastructure. The founder of the country’s leading trusted-data company signed for board-level entry into a police-agent vendor five weeks before a law requiring trusted-data audit trails on police agents came into force.

    OK back to be being terrified I guess.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    looks like a confluence of dumb shit that may or may not result in anything that means anything or does anything

    there was a big blockchain push from 2019 on, basically in response to Facebook's Libra cryptocurrency plan. This directly brought us the e-CNY central bank digital currency. They tried to do this with a blockchain, but quickly realised you weren't going to scale a blockchain to fucking China. So far e-CNY is just another phone money like Alipay or Tenpay. I suppose it's a public good to have cash be under public control and not just private control, but it doesn't really have a compelling use case in its own right.

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    uggh, I dragged my feet too much on giving our instance more disk and the database fell over

    it seems to have recovered alright, but please check if there's any weirdness or missing posts around the time when it went down

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/murdle/comments/1ux0g4r/murdle_uses_ai/

    Unfortunately you’re right about the Marot— in early 2022 I used a pre-ChatGPT transformer to come up with some of the symbolism, because I thought it was a funny source for essentially arbitrary “revelation.” It probably amounted to about 20-30 words in the final corpus and, although I only vaguely recall this, I believe I remember it being very bad at it. (Significantly more of it was decided under the influence of psychedelic mushrooms.)

    OK I think we give GT Karber a pass on this one.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Honestly If we want to use the hallucinatron the same way we use hallucinogens (minus the "transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm" part) I have no real problem with that. Scrambling and remixing the contents of the world in ways that might prompt actual minds to create new connections and interesting art seems to fit.

    I don't think there's enough of a market for that to support scaling to any meaningful degree and so have less problems from an enabling/infrastructure perspective. I mean the chemical alternatives let you transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm. AI can't do that.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    In some ways, it's a lot like the cut-up technique used by the Dadaists and William S. Burroughs, though much less efficient. Maybe Markov chains are a happy medium. Going to run M-x dissociated-text on my ePub collection.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    We had an IRC bot at the first software company I worked at that ingested conversation along with all the contents of some books from Project Gutenberg, all for the purposes of making the bot say silly things.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    I remember having a lot of fun with Roborosewater where they could generate something that matched the format of a Magic: the Gathering card perfectly and sometimes even something playable within the rules but it was always nonsensical in some ridiculous way. There's a couple streams from the LoadingReadyRun gang drafting a cube from the resulting chaos that are a hoot.

    Ed: Here's a sampling in video form because I can't find a "best of" article and they get into the "analysis" a bit.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    That feeling when you're an OpenAI exec and you realize the jig is up.

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    I am personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks. To be clear, I myself might be fine with models presenting this level of marginal risk being open weight, but I am surprised that China is fine with it. I suspect the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI).

    The strategy seems quite clear to me, and not blind at all: they want to hold a gun to the head of over-capitalized Americans like Mr. Ball and his enablers, and will be perfectly happy if that drives our tech industry into a financial escalation spiral that ultimately neuters it for years to come. He has the barest glimmerings of being aware of this, but frames it wrong because he can't let go of the sci-fi sentimentality that drives his whole industry.

    The other 25% or so is their lack of compute for customer inference (making China's open-weight strategy an unintended byproduct of US export controls) and the normal Chinese strategy of aggressive exports.

    The Chinese still have overwhelming clout in final electronics assembly, i.e. turning this shit into things people can actually use. Of course they are interested in maintaining that advantage. And if, in the medium term, they can nudge more financially desperate American politicians and executives towards loosening trade and investment restrictions, possibly even towards equity partnerships, so much the better. "Lack of compute for customer inference" is ultimately a red herring. If I'm a Chinese economic strategist, why would I not expect GPU tech to become commoditized over time, like every other aspect of advanced computing technology has? Perhaps even more rapidly, as the designs are inherently massively-parallel implementations of similar base execution blocks!

    The rest of his "accelerationist"/"decelerationist" drivel concerns a silly spat that is mainly centered around and driven by Twitter. It is still difficult to overestimate just how brain-rotted Twitter has made these people.

    e: case in point, he leads out with barely-veiled Covid lab-leak trutherism, surely just to rile up the hogs. What a loser hahahahahaha

    "A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism

    full AI communism

    At some point the models will be capable enough that you will notice. "A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

    Listen I'm all for hating on the Chinese government, but it's more enjoyable to hate on them for real reasons rather than whatever this is.

    Second mistake: I was relatively imprecise, writing, as I usually do, for a fairly high-context audience that was inclined to give me grace rather than pick apart every word

    Oh no the lesson he took away from his tweet is that he didn't use enough words.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    His non-apology apology:

    I'm not going anywhere. I am not retreating from public writing, and I am not retreating from saying inconvenient things in public. I am unfazed by harsh criticism, and I know that a reaction of this magnitude is in part the result of having struck a chord. Bear with me, and if you can, remember that I am a human being with a six-month old boy to raise, a book to write, a new job, and much more questions than answers about our collective future.

    Guys, he has a baby. Don't be too mean to him.

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    Attempting to credit Luigi's actions to AI millenarianism putting him in a weird headspace almost feels like stolen valor.

    Still, if that's where his mental health defence is going to hinge on then I guess it's relevant.

    [Tim Urban] goes on to claim that ASI, with an IQ of 12,000, will eventually replace humankind as the dominant species on the planet:

    That IQ works like mana points is both a widespread misconception and a red flag that you're far more ignorant than you let on.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    self your masto feed has been magnificent and uplifting

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