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[–] 148 points 2 months ago (24 children)

How about we start with 1% and see what happens.

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    [–] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But the billionaires say we need MORE people so they have enough slaves of the colors they like!

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    [–] 27 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    alternatively we could probably do with just reducing population by every CEO/comapany owner/shareholder/leader/whoever has control that refuses to become climate neutral

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    It is widely understood that Thanos was insane. Resources aren't naturally limited and his campaign of slaughtering half the populations of planets didn't ensure plenty for the masses. What he accomplished was to teach otherwise isolated civilizations that unless they put aside their differences and worked together they were vulnerable to devastating attack.

    The only scarcity there is or ever has been is artificially created by either ineptitude or purposeful in order to prop up the wealthy who are given ownership of land and resources.

    If he truly wish for a prosperous universe he would have snapped those fingers and installed the knowledge to create a post scarcity society on every planet with intelligent life in all beings. Because with all things the answer is EDUCATION NOT DEATH.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    By definition there is always scarcity

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    We as a species, at this very moment in time, have the physical and technological capability to feed every man woman and child on the planet, yet there's somehow not enough food to feed all people and groceries are more expensive than they were 100 years ago. In terms of shear volume, you can stack all of humanity in one small corner of the grand canyon but "there's not enough room for people to live in a home." yet millions of houses and apartments stand empty as placeholders for equity and investment.

    Scarcity is a choice, not a fact of existence. Stop buying the propaganda.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What he accomplished was to teach otherwise isolated civilizations that unless they put aside their differences and worked together they were vulnerable to devastating attack.

    One point I liked about Alternate History Hub's version of this is that they pointed out that very few people actually knew what happened. Imagine if half the people on Earth today turned to dust in an instant, and imagine this was a world where Marvel had never existed. Most people would interpret that as some sort of act of Divine judgment. A quote I loved from that video was something like, "people will come to many conclusions. Giant purple man with magic space gems is not the explanation they'll go to first...or ever."

    I don't think Thanos taught anyone anything. Billions of species throughout the universe saw half their population turn to dust. Then a few years later, all those people just mysteriously came back. They have no idea what a Thanos is. They've never never heard of the Avengers or the Infinity Stones. It's just this completely inexplicable event outside all known laws of science. It's unambiguous proof that some sort of supernatural forces exist in the universe, but everything beyond that is open to interpretation.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Eating the rich would do more

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago*

    population x individual emissions = global emissions

    Which number you want to change says a lot about your politics.

    edit: given it’s the daily mail *spits on the ground* it’s very likely the researchers didn’t even say anything about which number to tune, the daily mail just added their special flavor to the headline. (probably also have a good idea which 4 billion has to go)

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Gee, I wonder which group is going to be genocided by the wealthy....

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Thanos could have doubled the amount of space and resouces in the universe just as easily.

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    The upper crust (the top 1/2%) want the 'herd' trimmed by 96%. This leaves 3.5% left to feed and slave for the 1/2% who will be living in Greenland on virgin soil drinking virgin glacier water and who run Earth's feudal system.

    Half? You're a dreamer!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Why would they want so few people to oppress and exploit?

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Less consumers and less slaves? Noooo what will the investors do? We need MORE MORE MORE

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    There was this book about a fertility reducing virus.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Most of the destruction is Capitalism and Consumer Society overproduction and overexploitation - a lot of unecessary shit is done and a lot of what's done is done in unecessarily destructive ways (with lots of Negative Externatities) when it could've been done in far less destructive but less profit-generating ways, all because our political and economic structures are dedicated to the maximization of the wealth of the richest people.

    (It's not by chance that Ecologist parties are generally leftwing - the politicies for protecting the Environment are generally diametrally opposite of the politicies that maximize the investment profits of those who own most shit and have the most money)

    I bet that only about 100 people need to die (all billionaires) to save the planet, an acceptable sacrifice.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Are these scientists with us on the room right now?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    The issue with halving in that people will be left beehind alone and sad. We could just remove all humas, this way nobody is sad

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    Or, yk, live in a different way. But that might be harder than having a lot of people die. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Actually scientists in the 1970s were saying we need to do what we can to stabilize AT the 4 billion we were at then. See Limits to Growth and related studies. Cutting back now would help, but far more damage has been caused thanks to everything we've done including but not limited to population pressures than if we had heeded the warnings then and changed our direction. Some feedbacks are probably unstoppable now, no matter what we cut back.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That was primarily about the ability to provide food. The same scientists back then would have said we can't even reach this population level while eating meat.

    They were correct until we advanced agricultural science and found ways to more than double our food production.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Almost like its not a population problem, its a logistics problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I have seen that movie. It's kingsman. And the end is fabulous.

    Head explosions !!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    This is wrong. We can also curb extremely wasteful production.

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    [–] 6 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Scientists

    Misspelled Eugenicists.

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    [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Pretty sure the birth rate is plummeting. So continue doing nothing i guess.

    Fucking paying money to raise a wage slave renter for the shitty bosses and landlords of the world.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Halve Life 4b confirmed.

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    [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I kind of liked how they acknowledged the backwards thinking Thanos had in the new Spider-Man movie and just made it a joke.

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