I've always wondered about the eternal bliss part of heaven. It always seems very vague. So on earth you're not supposed to enjoy life's pleasures or joys "too much" because in heaven you can't enjoy it "too much", like what's the goal. Is it just dangle temptation in front of you as a test, so you don't go to hell. So does that mean you can be a sinner in heaven because you showed restraint on earth? Does that mean you get in because you proved that you are ok with living a pious life but now there is no temptation and no free will? Either way it sounds like physical torture in hell or mental torture in heaven, I'm a bit confused. I'm willing to listen, hell seems pretty specific but heaven is pretty vague.

Remember reading the web series “the salvation war”, (where god announces armageddon but turns out modern weaponry altered the scales somewhat). Turns out heaven was only heaven for Middle Ages peasants, a lack of hunger or illness, but you still have to farm and go to church etc. the army gets there and just thinks “wow what a shithole”.

Heaven is supposed to be all good if someone isn't enjoying their existence there then it's not heaven

Bruh if I can’t smoke weed and play video games all day wtf is the point of heaven

But he has a Halo?

If there are afterlives (I don't think there are), I'd want mine to just be me and my girlfriend, talking about whatever interests us and just holding each other. I genuinely tear up at the thought. It'd be so perfect.

If there is a frozen yogurt stand, you know this isn't the good place.

I really hope that if there's an afterlife, it isn't anything like in the bible. It sounds like pure torture.

I would prefer the afterlife to be something like a super-advanced future civilization scanning people's minds from the past and putting them in a simulation modeled after how The Good Place was after they fixed it in the show.

But he already has a halo!

You get to heaven then some homicidal maniac comes in and ruins everyone's nice peaceful time with his Head Explodey powers.

Time to narrate my interpretation of "afterlife" when considering several religions, novels, and philosophers. Lets ignore the power aspects of religion for this though, I don't think the original authors had the slightest idea that their works would be used to control people.

Lets start with my primary observations.

1. Universally, all religions seem to agree that awareness of existence is suffering.
2. All religions attempt to explain why this is.
3. All religions attempt to alleviate some of that suffering in various ways.
4. All religions attempt to teach the understanding of the universal suffering, the explanations, and alleviations to everyone.
5. All religions acknowledge the fear of death.
6. All religions suggest an explanation of death.
7. All religions attempt to alleviate the fear of death.

The first point, I think, is the important one. Universal suffering. Bhuddism calls this out in plain language. It suggests a path to "enlightenment" that is very similar to modern mental health techniques.

The logical conclusion is that if life is suffering, death is comfort. But we fear death, and mourn the dead. So, we are faced, individually, with a choice. We have an extremely tiny fraction of the age of the universe to experience it and how incredible it is - do you choose to experience it, in its full nature with the suffering included, and make the best of it? Or do you choose to say "fuck this shit" and skip on that unique journey?

Soren Kierkegaard:

'Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.'

Frank Herbert adds:

'A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it.'

So, personally, I've chosen to experience reality. Accept that it has a lot of suffering, but enjoy the beauty of watching a lunar eclipse. Studying the intricacies of quantum mechanics. Observing how life has evolved over millions of years.

I take my experience with me to the grave. No one else will be able to experience it. And in the end, I will no longer suffer.

I love the Talking Heads song, Heaven, which just describes Heaven as the most boring place anyone could possibly be at cause everything being completely perfect all the time is boring and uninteresting.

Does the bible say anything about heaven except people will be happy and be with god? No real details about why they are happy or what the big deal is about being with god. Is he/she funny? A good dancer? What?