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[–] 3 points 3 hours ago

There's going to be some fuzzy math hidden behind that article, I'd only expect a 9x difference when comparing lemons with melons, new small electric cars vs older non-hybrid SUVs for example. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they also ignored less favourable conditions like highway driving or colder temperatures. How they came by their numbers is mostly opaque, but I suspect that this source is pretty biased.

I do believe that if you need a new car and if you can charge at home, that EVs should now be a no brainer for most people. I just don't believe this article.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago*

    My bike is cheaper than a single monthly car payment and it's powered by cheesecake.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

    I own an EV (in Ireland). I would not say by any stretch I save that much as running a petrol car. It's probably in the order of a third perhaps and that's with a nighttime electricity plan where a kWh might cost 20c which works out about €4 at 15kWh/100km. A petrol car doing 6L/100km would cost about €12 at the moment. If somebody was using public fast chargers they would see very little savings.

    There are other expenses like motor taxes, wear & tear (tyres, brakes), servicing, oil changes etc. which might affect the cost. The UK also has a really dumb excise on EVs where they get whalloped with 3p per mile of extra tax. So 100km (62.5miles) is £1.87 of tax to add onto the charge bill. Luckily Ireland doesn't get it but most other expenses are comparable.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    why is it dumb to tax EVs for mileage? aren't ICs taxed similarly through fuel tax?

    roads gotta be paid for somehow, and it's fair to tax actual usage

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    It wouldn't be dumb if ICE vehicles were also taxed the same way but they're not. There would be nothing to stop the UK government abolishing fuel tax and slapping 6p a mile or whatever on ICE vehicles

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    It wouldn’t be dumb if ICE vehicles were also taxed the same way but they’re not.

    Petroleum is taxed per liter. A car goes X km per liter. So the current petroleum tax is effectively per km, or close enough.

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  • [–] 10 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

    Jokes on you, i charge myne primarily with home solar, so its free.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

    I often get paid for charging mine. They paid me 30p on Sunday.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (3 children)

    How?

    (No need to go into too much detail as I'm not in the UK; I'm just curious)

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    I assume that electricity price sometimes goes negative when excess is produced, resulting in some providers paying you for using electricity at that time.

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  • [–] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Progress of EV's will be complete eventually but those oil company barons and tycoons sure made it stretch out and cost a lot more.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago* (1 child)

    I expect they will keep trying to hold back EVs and compete forever, so never let your guard down. There will always be someone, somewhere, wanting to pump oil and feed it to a combustion engine for money. They'll say it's their culture, for Jesus, for their family, to feed baby koalas, to revive a poor dead rat, or whatever it takes to burn some form of petroleum, change climate, and try to buy a yacht or an island.

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  • [–] 11 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

    And there are so many people "triggered" by it

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  • [–] 12 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    I had a coworker go on an insane rant about his hatred of EVs after somebody mentioned Teslas. I wound him up even more by saying I'm fine with EVs just not ones built by Nazis.

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