San Diego County jumped into California’s sprawling ghost gun fight this week, suing a 3-D printing filament manufacturer it says hocks material for homespun firearms in violation of state law.

Working with the Giffords Law Center, the county counsel sued manufacturer Polymaker, alleging the company made a “strategic business choice” to market and sell 3-D printer filament to Californians for the express purpose of building illegal weapons. The polymer filament is sold in spools that feed into 3-D printers, allowing the devices to form designs created by their owners.

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[–] 148 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't tell them about pipes.

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  • [–] 77 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I believe they'll eventually come for those too.

    IMO the real end goal of these laws isn't to ban ghost guns, it's to ban plebs from being able to build or create anything at all. 3D printing a plastic piece to fix a broken tab in some gizmo cuts into corporate profits so a manufactured moral panic about ghost guns appears. I'm sure they'll eventually get to a pipe rifle moral panic at some point to lock down DIY plumbing.

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  • [–] 118 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

    hold on let me go sue home depot for selling black iron pipe and nails because someone made a pipe bomb. Nowhere has poly-maker ever advertised or suggested their speciality filaments could make firearms.

    Someone's looking for a payout settlement, fuck California

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  • [–] 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    you could literally make a shotgun with that too. Saw a YouTube video. Two pipes, one fit in the other, small one was the right size to hold a shell, and a nail at the end of the closed pipe triggered it if you used your hands to hit it.

    Super effective and easy one shot shotgun. there's no real way to regulate guns IMO. They're not complicated devices.

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    [–] 98 points 2 weeks ago

    They used fear of guns to attack Right to Repair and small manufacturing. It was never about guns.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 weeks ago

    That is completely bizarre.

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  • [–] [S] 65 points 2 weeks ago* (10 children)

    This is getting a bit fucking ridiculous. They're suing filament manufacturers now.

    A video I posted a few months ago about this bullshit: https://youtu.be/E1B2cWEaWDw

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    @jballs that’s like suing a hardware store for someone hit with a piece of wood my point is filaments are legal it is the end-product that is meant to be perceived
    #3DPrinting

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    [–] 59 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Sue the steel mills for guns too while you're at it.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    Americans can order guns to their doors, but the 3d printers are the issues you choose to tackle...

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  • [–] 29 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    No, they can't. Guns can only be legally shipped to a federally licensed gun dealer. The dealer cannot transfer it to the buyer without the mandated background check.

    The gun laws are already fucked up enough. You don't have to make shit up.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago

    Maybe they should sue steel manufacturers too since that’s the main material used for most fire arms.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Is this filament specifically designed for guns?

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    This seems awfully familiar to the gun crackdowns after the Black Panthers started using them for self defense.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (8 children)

    under the second amendment, and under the ATF's ruling, citizens are allowed to manufacture their own firearms. this is getting struck down..... if it were in Texas and not the gun-stealing California. I hope to the gods it gets struck down, because this would be a travesty for all my brothers, sisters and non binary pals in California... my heart goes out to y'all.

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    [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago

    Jfc these people are out of their minds

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  • [–] 21 points 2 weeks ago

    huh. who knew the answer to gun violence in the US was to regulate 3D printers!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    This will get tossed. But here's why it's actually happening:

    Gatalog and Polymaker both market through a network of influencers “specializing in 3D printed ghost gun content, as well as companies and individuals that illegally distribute [digital firearm manufacturing codes],” according to the suits.

    Both also directly target state residents: Gatalog advertises a “California Compliant Glock 19-based Carbine kit,” while Polymakers’ website features Proposition 65 warnings and state-specific privacy opt-out features.

    I mean yea, advertise your filament with YouTubers making guns, and you put yourself in the...oof.

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    [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago

    For fucks sake.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    i hope.polymaker fights this. this law ia wrong and should be challenged in court

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    [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You can make a crude firearm/hand held pipe bomb with a pipe and lighter. A lot less effort than 3d printing one.

    Are they going to go after builders merchants now?

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    [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children)

    The specifics revolve around a 3d-printed-gun advocate named Sean Aranda, whose youtube channel focuses on the subject. According to him, when youtube demonetized the channel in 2023 Polymaker approached him with a sponsorship offer. A couple months later Polymaker announced Aranda was a new member of its marketing team.

    So regardless of where you stand on the Calif anti-3d-gun law, this isn't a simple case of going after egg farmers because of illegal omelets.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago

    Pfffffff hahahaha, are you also going to go after weed walker too?

    The USA is a joke

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Next they'll be looking at the violent motherfucker that invented 3d printing. Plus fishing supply companies that produce a different kind of, but still a, filament. /s

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    They're trying to make this a case over marketing and intent rather than materials.

    The actual types of filament they're concerned with are carbon fiber nylon (sold by many brands) and "PLA Pro" which is just a bit better regular PLA.

    These are sold by tons of brands all across the internet.

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    [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

    I'm not a gun guy but from my understanding of ghost guns you pretty much buy the whole gun online in parts, and you just 3d print a handle.

    So I don't understand why people are so afraid of 3d printing when it really has minimal to do with the final product. From what I can tell you can't just 3d print a gun from start to finish like its a llm. You still have to buy the actual gun parts from the manufacturer. To me this sounds completely unrelated and like a issue with regulating gun parts.

    You can carve a handle out of soap, wood, or buy a solid chunk of plastic and its the same result.

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    [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Polymaker did not respond to requests for comment.

    Statements like these always seem deceiving to me. Like, how much time did you give them? Some of these people race to get their story out too quickly, without giving a reasonable amount of time for a response.

    What if they respond later? I guess they could update the article, but that's still after people have already read it and formed their opinions based on the original contents.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    This is very normal, and not meant to be deceiving. If the group who didn't respond to the request does respond after the article was published, that will be removed and a statement that reads something like "Polymaker (insert title or department) responded after initial publishing with this statement" and that statement will follow after. From a journalistic integrity standpoint it shows that they wanted to get both sides of a story, especially if one side was interviewed or quoted. The alternative of not stating that comment was requested is we read the article and wonder if Polymaker ever got a chance to speak their side.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Oh my God! America could end up having a real problem with gun violence...

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Seems the safe option for others is to cease all shipments and sales of printers and filament to California.

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    [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

    They are going about this all wrong. Just make possession of an illegal firearm a crime and enforce it.

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