Oh cool so you can use this in your big move that should go something like...

"We're really sorry can we come back to the EU if we dump our fascists pleaaaase it was all a Russian plot." Lol

Same guy that says that those guys out on bail for stealing fuel were for sure Iranian terrorists.

No shit...

It was obvious while it was happening. At the same time the US was electing Trump and a far right nationalist was gaining popularity in France. You weren't connecting the dots?

Everybody thought the wall coming down was the end but Russia has had a hell of a comeback with their Brexit-Trump 1-2 punch to Democracy. They might've overreached in Ukraine but even our best efforts haven't stopped Donald from helping Russia.

That's the first thing I've heard Andy Burnham say and I'm liking the guy.

Second reason: the Triggonometry guys seem to be triggered by him, so there's another reason I guess.

"Burnham did not provide further details about the type or extent of Moscow's activity during the Brexit referendum."

is the government/corpo complicit media equivalent of 'trust me bro'

Politicians being so out of touch with international politics that they're not aware of outside interests in destroying the EU... That they'll do a Brexit without expecting international interference. That's the ridiculous thing.

That Britain went ahead and did it, is the ridiculous thing.

What's more elections these days are becoming questionable and will only become more questionable with the prevalance of AI culture bots.

Look at it this way: States that don't have democracy are common in the world today. States that don't have democracy tend to be rightwing and authoritarian.

It should be assumed that outside interference will then be rightwing and authoritarian in nature... And we're seeing that trend play out globally now. Gee I wonder why!

Curious how he's forgot all about Cambridge Analitica which was paid with American money ...

Not to mention the very local, very British (mainly English, even) assholes that pushed for Leave as well as the (British and American) billionaires whose newspapers in Britain pushed for it.

Don't get me wrong: I'm pretty sure Russia did try. China too. And then of course there's Israel.

It's just that in my experience living in Britain (including during, before and after the Leave Referendum) if you're really looking for foreigners to blame it's America which seems to interfere the most in British politics, by far, though even they don't have the level of influence that the local "elites" have.

So it's funny seeing Andy whitewashing the likes of Murdoch and the Rothermere family, most of the Tory party, as well as American money and Israel-funded Tory-aligned British Jewish Associations (though the latter were much more visible after Brexit during the attempt at moving the Labour Party back to it's Leftwing roots with Corbyn).

There are only so many times you can say no shit sherlock.

First time?

No mention of Cambridge Analytica? I mean, I'm sure the russians put in a coin or two because the breakup was very much in their interest, but I've yet to see clear public proof of it other than various politicians claiming 'it's clear'.

Meanwhile there's actual proof CA influenced elections and are probably working with the christo-fascists whose open goal is to break up the EU, so to me, in retrospect, it looks like maga and the US are the bigger fish here.

In before .ml users tell them it's in their head and to stop believing imperialist lies

TIL the UK has a new PM. I just read a little about him and he seems worlds better than starmer.

Any Brits who would like to chime in? I always like hearing local perspectives

Then show us the iron-clad evidence and cancel the results of the referendum.

Of fucking course they did. And they did in the US and they are doing so in Canada. If you wanted to destabilize your enemies and all you really had to do was get a bunch of bots and people (paid, or coerced) to play on pre-existing dissent and fear, why the fuck wouldn't you? Sure a lot easier and less traceable than shooting them. Best part is once you feed it enough, it turns into a self sustaining organism, and you can relax in your wing chair by the fire, vodka in hand, and watch any set of outcomes (all of which benefit you) play out.

Then, when your enemy is weakened, you gobble up the bite sized pieces you can.