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[–] 118 points 3 days ago (13 children)

My parents know one and it's windows. One time my dad messaged me at work to ask if his laptop had windows xp, vista, 7, 8, 10 or 11, so he doesn't even know the version differences :p

My mom may also say "samsung" as an operating system if you prod enough, but she also knows their laptop has windows 11, so she knows more than my dad

So that's what the average non-tech person thinks about OSes

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    [–] 97 points 3 days ago (12 children)

    I constantly remind myself of the George Carlin(I think) quote:

    “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that.”

    Also important to remember Douglas Adams (when underestimating stupid people):

    “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.”

    Have gotten to post that one twice this week!

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  • [–] 30 points 3 days ago

    While I don't disagree with this in principal, it's important to distinguish between stupidity and ignorance. Most people don't know about OSes because they've never needed to learn more than how to do basic tasks, and so are ignorant of how they work, what alternatives are out there, and why someone might choose one. This is very different to being incapable of those technicalities if shown a good reason to do so.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    gotta add the babbage classic :

    On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" In one case a member of the Upper, and in the other a member of the Lower, House put this question. I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

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    [–] 12 points 2 days ago
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    This isn't quite following the format. The "And X, of course." line in the original is an example that's more well known than the preceding examples, something that ponytail thinks is so obvious that it doesn't even need to be mentioned (yet still something that the average person doesn't know about).

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  • [–] 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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    [–] 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    I started building pcs to replace cable boxes for people. The realization I had is that most people's understanding of technology starts and ends with their phone.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    And they don't even understand their phones.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    Computer scientists don't understand this. This is systems.

    Seriously, I have met computer scientists who admit they don't know how the computer works, but simply is processional math.

    One dude just got his phD in computer science and admitted to me he cannot even use his phone. Wish I was joking.

    Computer science doesn't mean you know how to a use a computer; astronomers and microbiologists don't know much about telescopes and microscopes.

    And CS students have the dumbest "smart" questions.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    One dude just got his phD in computer science and admitted to me he cannot even use his phone. Wish I was joking

    I mean, computer science is basically the mathematics of computation. It's not like the people working on knot theory or topology are great with 3d art or knitting

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Most cs degrees I've seen, including my own include an operating systems course.

    "How a computer works"

    It really depends what you mean, and at what depth; theres a tone of stuff in there. Even then I think your mostly wrong, you just notice/remember the ones who are inept at using their computer.

    If you mean run program x on os y, well then sure

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    I work in the IT department at a university. Can confirm that many comp sci majors have no idea how a computer works, or even how to install an operating system. They sure know how to write code though.

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    [–] 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I swear I saw a comment around here that said "the average user does not want bloatware like systemd on their computer" and I just kind of wonder if we are all living on the same planet sometimes.

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    [–] 69 points 3 days ago (21 children)

    Am in tech. Surrounded by tech people. Front devs, back devs, data engineers, data scientists and analysts, IT techs...

    They know windows. They know macOS as an "easier alternative for normies". Some of them even prefer it because it's "easy". A few of them even know there's a terminal somewhere, but wouldn't git commit from the command line even if their life depended on it.

    A lot of them have heard of Linux, in a distant and nebulous way. Most of them still believe that Linux is confined to the server space or a weird dev environment inside WSL because you're developing for servers, that you can't daily drive Linux as a desktop, or that you can't game on Linux. None of them would consider switching even if they spend their day complaining about how shitty windows is.

    This is true for about 95% of the tech people I interact with btw. Big tech psyop is real.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 days ago* (8 children)

    I wouldn't take a developer who can't write git commit from command line seriously

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Working as a dev, I have the same experience. The few times I've tried to bring Linux up as a viable option to the OS we're all forced to use at work, and most of us hate using (Win11), there's little to no interest. There's a few Mac users on my team, but that's about it. I think it's that the majority of folks, even if they're working in tech, simply don't have enough of a reason to try something unfamiliar, which might cause them new and unknown problems, or require them to rethink how they use computes, on their own machines. Even though I'm pretty sure that most would prefer it, given some time.

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    [–] 60 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    If you put Linux Mint on the average persons PC and set it up with the same desktop icons as their windows pc they wouldn't know it wasn't windows.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    'Is this a windows computer' 'No this is a dell computer'

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  • [–] 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    I started a class this year, a forensics class related to computers. The intro prompt is interesting, what computer do you have, windows or mac?

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  • [–] 36 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Yeah the avg people won't even know about the TempleOS

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    [–] 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    One of the two is bound to be Hannah Montana linux

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  • [–] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I jokingly threatened to install Hannah Montanna Linux on my wife's windows gaming rig, and she said she wouldn't be mad.

    If only that version wasn't deprecated.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago

    I use my own custom made OS called PenOS that doesn't even really work or do anything useful, but it does spam the word PENIS across your screen forever.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 days ago (28 children)

    The fuck is BSD?

    sincerely: a non-technical mint user

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  • [–] 35 points 3 days ago (16 children)

    B (Berkeley), S (Software), D (Distribution).

    A Unix based OS, developed at Berkeley.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    A separate family of operating systems. It's a direct decendant of the old UNIX. FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD are the most common distributions.

    It shares a lot of the same userspace tools as Linux (the GNUserspace, if you will), so if you're used to the command line, a lot will seem familiar at a first glance. However, the underlying mechanisms can feel a bit strange at first once you try it out.

    I used FreeBSD as my daily driver back in the day, but now I'm also on Mint, mostly because I used linux more at work.

    I've been meaning to check out BSD these days to see how far it's come since I last used it 20ish years ago, I just haven't gotten around to it.

    I also remember hearing someone say that there are two things from Berkley that messes with your head: BSD and LSD.

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    [–] 23 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    I would be surprised if the average person knows even one operating system, including the ones they use

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  • [–] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    i am pretty sure quite few people would not notice at all if you changed their windows for kde, as long as the same icons were on the same place on desktop.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    That is true, don't even need to change icons.

    Years ago when I lived with my parents I had my mother's desktop setup with a dual boot testing things in KDE 3. Went to get a snack and came back to my mother sitting there playing kmahjongg.

    She spent two hours playing kmahjongg and kpatience before she yelled wanting to know where her microsoft picture-it was. Never even noticed she wasn't in Windows.

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    [–] 18 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    The average person has tried four or five different operating systems.

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