Weird question probably but here goes :

I'm discovering the joy of having a Dock, it's great!

But what's even better is I can just get my PC to stream more powerful games to my Deck (that the Deck would otherwise struggle with)

It works flawlessly (zero input delay, or rather not noticeable), better than Steam Link / Remote Play (I get input delay on this), and I haven't tried Moonlight

It's also so much more convenient than moving my PC to the living room (where the TV is) and plugging it there!

So I'm like wow Order of the Sinking Star is awesome, but what if I played games that my Deck sometimes has trouble with? Like I could run Witcher 3 Remastered with some better settings!

So I guess I'm not asking for great Steam Deck games, it's more like, what are games that my PC could run that feel great on controller, that I would stream to my Docked Deck?

Thanks!!

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[–] 1 point 20 hours ago

Well, the new version of WoW (forever) is coming out soon and it has native controller support. It's got more horizontal progression so you can play at a slower pace without being left behind. I'm going back after many years away.. I've been thinking about some way to play it on the TV (3 floors lower than the PC...). I see folks playing the beta on the Steam deck but with just the dock you wouldn't get more than 1080p medium settings, so this is very interesting information. My house has separate WiFi access points linked by ethernet over coaxial.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    .... So if you aren't using steam link or moonlight, what exactly are you using?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 22 hours ago*

    Remote Play from my pc to the steam deck which is basically the successor to the Steam Link!

    basically I don't have steam link directly on the TV (because somehow it creates input delays) but have the Deck as an intermediary (which doesn't have input delays)

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  • [–] 43 points 1 day ago (23 children)

    Here's a suggestion that doesn't even begin to address your question, have you considered a long HDMI cable to connect your TV in your lounge to your PC directly? Best of both worlds, comfortable seat in front of the TV, no input delay, play anything your PC can handle without middlemaning through the deck.

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  • [–] [S] 47 points 1 day ago (21 children)

    No that's a great idea, and I agree that would be ideal ; the only problem is that the layout of the place doesn't really work, lemme do a quick floor plan on paint

    idk if attaching an hdmi cable to the ceiling would work

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

    I don't think anyone has mentioned this but HDMI is just Cat-6 with a fancy hat. You can run cat-6 cabling through your attic, down the walls, etc., as if you were setting up a standard Ethernet run. Then, slap some rj-45 to hdmi adapters on each, and voila! Or you could just put proper hdmi heads on the cable ends and skip the adapters.

    EDIT: Amazon product link with diagrams.

    https://a.co/d/02iebocu

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    Hdmi is not like cat 6. Hdmi 2.2 has bandwidth of like 96Gb/s. Youre not going to be transmistting raw video and audio over cat cable. (You might get hdmi 1.4 over it)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    But if OP was fine with wifi streaming not going to get HDMI 2.2 quality anyways, and it’s hard finding hardware for it on pcs still.

    It comes down to what trade offs OP is willing to make, and for many would be a viable option.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago*

    Wifi streaming uses efficient compression to shove video and audio over ethernet, and easily achieve 4k @60hz, at the cost of lower bitrates. But For 4k @60 you need atleast hdmi 2.0, which is common in any gpu made in the pass 10 years.

    If op is fine with 1080p @ 60, then hdmi 1.4 is enough. Also, they make hdmi over optical, so would you chose using cat cable?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    If you measure it and it is less than 10m (the physical limit of hdmi without a repeater) then you might consider a floor cable canal. They usually come in a variety of colors, don't require adheisive or screwing and are just simple things to keep people from tripping on cables

    I have one of these on a doorway, to connect a pc to a tv and it works good enough

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  • Could you swap the tv and seating so the tv is on the same wall as computer?

    The cat 5e / cat 6 hdmi adapters are incredibly cool! If you can run above, below, or around this would be a great solution too.
    (Please don’t run wiring under carpet for everyone’s safety).

    *Yes, I know HDMI is low voltage, but I’d rather people takeaway the “don’t do this” vs. the nuanced risk.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    This is my exact setup at the moment. I've been playing a bunch of Rogue Driving, Elite Dangerous and Succubus Successor: Delilah's Juicy Journey.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The answer is really just any game that is well suited to controller + TV. The aspect of streaming to the Deck is largely irrelevant since, as you mentioned, the experience feels so close to native.

    I used this type of setup to pkay Harold Halibut, the Quantic Dream games (Detroit, Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain), Elden Ring (+ other soulsborne), and anything else that doesn’t run at its full potential directly on the Deck.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    Harold Halibut takes up a shocking amount of hard drive space and uses an inordinate amount of resources for what it is.

    Maybe it's poor optimization, or maybe that's just how it has to be if you're going to do actual, real, stop motion for everything.

    But goddamn

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Steam has a list of games that are "Controller Friendly". I mean the Library view in Steam client, next to "All Games" list. On your Steam Deck it lists games that are verified for Steam Deck, but on PC client it lists games that are Controller friendly in general.

    You can create a custom Collection for that too, a list that is available on all systems you log in. Go to "All Games" view, click "Fliter" (or X button), scroll down to "Hardware support" and enable filter "Full Controller Support". Scroll down and click "Save as Dynamic Collection". Name it and save it. Now this is a dymanic collection, which means it will automatically expand with new added games that fit this criteria. I would say all games from this list should fit your requirement and use case of being playable with a gamepad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    If the PC is close enough, wouldn't it be better to just plug the TV in as a second monitor?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    I've been playing Final Fantasy XVI like this and it's been perfect. It just became Deck verified very recently but that's a stretch.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Not answering your question, but related: I mostly use my Steam Deck with a dock, TV, and controller. The only issue I’ve really had is that it doesn’t always run the fan as needed, and then the CPU will throttle when it gets too hot - with more demanding games. It happened a lot with Diablo IV and more recently with Need for Speed Heat or Palworld, less so with games like Stardew Valley, Casette Beasts or Pizza Possum. I bought an external fan that forces it to cool (https://jsaux.com/products/fan-cooler-for-steam-deck-gp0200) and haven’t had any throttling issues since. The noise is a little annoying sometimes though.

    Answering your question: the above listed games are fun, and easily played with a controller.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 22 hours ago

    That's very interesting, I have basically the opposite of you: my Deck will turn fans on at any chance so after a while it gets annoying sound wise, I never really looked at the fan curves but I should really do that

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I streamed Expedition 33 to my deck when it was my shift during the night to look after our newborn whilst they were sleeping.

    Honestly can't remember much of it since that period of time was a blur, but what I do know is the streaming worked great, although I had to change a couple of settings as games would sometimes freeze. I think it was something to do with the encoding and decoding, so you may have to look at that if you have the same issue.

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    [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    edit: These run natively, I misread your post. Apologies.

    Vampire Survivors

    Slay the Spire

    Children of Morta

    Dead Cells

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Currently using sunshine/moonlight to my Rog Ally for Dawnwalker. I also use my Xbox with moonlight to stream occasionally. Just about any Unreal engine game runs rough on handhelds due to stuttering, so I use my desktop and stream it. The vast majority of the games I play work great with a controller.

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    [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    This is the first time I've thought about this, but you've made me think I should try this games like Kao or Bubsy4D or even just R&C Rift Apart.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    When I was injured civ 6 on a controller was a great time to just sit and play and enjoy.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Oooh I didn't think the controls would translate well but I'll try it out, thanks for the rec!!

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago (1 child)

    Oh I just realized that was with the original steam controller with one touchpad acting as mouse!

    The touch pads are important! But steam's controller support is actually incredible and you can play with any controller given you fiddle with it enough.

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    [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    The new star Wars racer would probably be dope, or one of the Redout games. You could see if Elden Ring will run with the full graphics instead of the fog version it usually plays at on the deck.

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