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[–] 27 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

Prohibition only serves to empower organized crime and cops. We have been through this shit with booze and cannabis. We know better than this. Come on people.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    This is just going to make them cool as hell for kids???

    Trust me I grew up with marijuana being illegal and somehow it made marijuana, the least edgey drug I have ever encountered, feel edgey and cool.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    I think it was the back alley deals that made weed cool and the bit of camaraderie that comes along with the in-group baddies smoking weed.

    Now you just go into a shop and there's a 19+ year old trying to sell you the ultra super duper bubble gum thunder blitz hybrid with 91% THC that you smoke through the shatter bong. Feels like Vegas when you just want a Doobie.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago

    What made weed cool was that weed was made illegal because of racism and was always cool... we are just addicted to the forms of racism that disappear when you look right at them more than we are willing to let ourselves have cool things.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago (23 children)

    Black market suffer too much after loosing hand on canabis?

    Which prohibition has ever been good for health?

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    [–] 21 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Plenty of opportunities for me on the black market then.

    Morons.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    We shouldn’t ban cigarettes and vapes instead we should push people to healthier alternatives.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    Education and freedom, yes!

    But please don't push, making addicts guilty doesn't help health issues.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (3 children)

    Education and Freedom is not enough. You must pave the road of a smoke free life and put barriers on the road to a smokers' life.

    You're educated and free to drive your car how you please. We design roads to make it easy to drive one way over another. But if the driver overcomes those barriers and drives in a poor manor, there are physical and legal penalties.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (2 children)

    I strongly disagree.

    Driving involves other people in your car and around you. And the public power should be used to protect them if you represent a threat toward them.

    If you drive on some private road or circuit, you may drive how you please (according to the private rules). And this freedom is important.

    The barrier you want to put on smokers life are abusive, in my opinion, not only as it restricts liberties, but mostly because it comes with criminalization of smoking. If it is a crime or a shame, people are most likely to hide it, do it worse, and make it cause more harms. And it also make it harder to help those who want to stop.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    Driving involves other people in your car and around you. And the public power should be used to protect them if you represent a threat toward them.

    As opposed to smoking, which doesn't affect other people's health? Secondhand smoke is a thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    Second hand smoke is a thing, and it is dangerous for health... so are pollutions from cars, and most production of electricity... but other things as well. Banning everything isn't a good way.

    Education and health campaign are a good way to make people willing to protect themselves and others ; or at least less of a charge on others.

    Those who pay attention to depollution systems on their car pollute less, and those who pay attention to where their second hand smoke goes aren't much of a danger. And when a majority makes efforts for the comon good, those who don't make efforts are seen socially wrong. A bit as someone who doesn't shower more than once a year: it is not illegal, but the way they are seen is a social cost. And you may notice fewer people go for never washing themselves than for smoking. In my opinion, because there is nothing "cool" at never washing self. Smoking give a shady vibe, a bit gangster, a bit "cool". Treat it as a pure health problem, and it will become a sickness (and it is not "cool" to be sick).

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Having watched my own parents die from smoking related illnesses, my father in law and sister in law succumb to lung cancer, it’s a shit way to go. Not something I want to watch or wish upon anyone.

    As an ex smoker myself who hasn’t smoked in over 20 years, there are still days I think I’d like a smoke. It’s got a helluva mental hold on you.

    Anything we can do to keep the next generation of kids to pick up this filthy habit is a win in my opinion. Stop them before they ever get the chance to start.

    This may not be perfect, but at least it’s something.

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    [–] 3 points 4 days ago

    Edibles are pretty nice

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    regulatory hubris will only strengthen the black market.

    personally I am actually FOR this as I want my dual nicotine/thc vapes ASAP. the black market always provides. and I dont give a fuck what your opinion is on this.

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    [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    I'm confused. If smoking is bad for you because it clogs up the blood vessels in the lungs with tar and reduces oxygen to the body, and with 500 or so chemicals added to the equation. Why is vaping ok when, in fact, it has as many chemicals and does the same amount of harm to your body? Make it totally illegal for dumb people who don't realize this.
    Here is an extra bit of wisdom: we all know we're going to die one day; what we should worry about is "How you're going to die."

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    When are those people going to push for a ban on cars, specifically gas powered cars.

    The health burden analysis indicated that TRAP from Canadian sources was associated with 1,200 premature deaths in Canada in 2015.

    Non-fatal health outcomes included 2.7 million acute respiratory symptom days, 1.1 million restricted activity days and 210,000 asthma symptom days per year. The total annual monetary value of the health burden was estimated at $9.5 billion (CAD 2015), with $9 billion being associated with premature deaths.

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    To me this all seems a bit hypocrite and extreme. C'est de l'acharnement.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Dont make tobacco illegal, make cigarettes illegal to sell. I highly doubt kids are gonna take the time to roll a cigarette to get hooked

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