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[–] 14 points 3 days ago (1 child)

Musks old tricks aren’t working like they used to and the walls are closing in on him for Tesla.

The latest Roadster demo is a sign that he’s relying more and more on theatrics to sell cars. Ten years ago you could kind of buy that he would have full autonomous driving at some point. Other car companies are far more advanced than him and the Chinese’s are eating his lunch on electric vehicles and beating him in every market but the US.

He pivoted Tesla to robotics and self driving taxis but other companies are ahead of him there as well and he knows it.

He doesn’t have any tech to set Tesla apart and justify its grossly overpriced stock.

He wants to roll it under Space X to ride the only two advantages he has left Starlink and Rockets.

He knows the US government under any administration won’t let either of those two go belly up and wants to link them with his other failed or failing companies.

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    [–] 15 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    He has total control of SpaceX - he made it so "investors" have no ability to override any of his decisions.

    He doesn't have full control over Tesla, because he's not a majority shareholder, and the board can vote him out.

    He wants SpaceX to buy Tesla so he can have 100% control over all of it. I would place a pretty substantial bet that he buys Tesla with the same "non-voting" SpaceX shares that he sold to retail investors during the IPO.

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    [–] 83 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.

    Tesla is a publicity stunt company that occasionally sells cars. It seems natural to merge the two.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    See this is exactly why it was such a bitch to get the legal rights to use that name in the branding. Teslas family did not want to be associated with this shit and knew goddamn well that people who would market that name would use be exactly like this.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.

    How so? I'm genuinely curious, don't know much about it, also not US-American

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  • [–] 46 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Musk used his informal position in Trump's admin to both cut funding to NASA and to direct contracts to SpaceX, and to squash federal investigations into his companies including SpaceX.

    Trump authored policy that was favorable to SpaceX and he and his family heavily invested in SpaceX right before announcing the policy.

    https://www.epi.org/blog/corruption-in-plain-sight-how-elon-musk-has-benefited-from-the-first-100-days-of-the-trump-administration/

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/08/investing/trump-5-million-dollars-spacex-bonds

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/25/doge-musk-spacex-starlink-contracts

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Also look up how spacex was awarded the HLS contract for Artemis. It’s pure corruption and fraud (facilitated by Kathy Lueders), and helps explain why they’ve failed to deliver what NASA bought.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    Heil Heil the space Nazi!

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    SpaceX has been largely successful, despite Musk, because of Gwynne Shotwell. So Musk shoved X (which he led directly and was falling) into xAI (which was basically failing because it's bad AI) and then shoved that into SpaceX.

    That didn't fail, but Tesla (which Musk leads directly) is now failing, too. So hey, let's do what worked before.

    Honestly, I'm surprised he hasn't dumped The Boring Company on her yet.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Once read that SpaceX was so successful because they had specific strategies to distract Musk and keep his hands of the real operational stuff.

    If he merges everything, it makes me wonder if he wants to get more involved and ruin the company completely.

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  • [–] 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Fuck. He's doing the hand thing. That's bad for everyone.

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  • [–] 66 points 4 days ago

    He just wants to keep rolling the dice on his poor decisions until it pays off. I guess absorbing Tesla into the one "successful" IPO will hide the losses and leave the investors holding the bag.

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  • [–] 51 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Let me guess, a merger helps Musk hit profitability targets that adds another few hundred billion to his total compensation, while increasing his control?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    He should focus on merging human decency into his personality.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    All will become X. Like a butthole.

    A butthole full of shit.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago

    Tesla and/or SpaceX/Grox are probably looking like Wile e. Coyote four strides past the cliff edge. Keep slamming companies together to hide the loss to earnings and make the stock value go up. Got to keep the trillionaire status and make sure he can leave someone else holding the bag.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    If they are all one company how will he buy his own vehicles with his other company to inflate numbers?

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  • [–] 38 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    What happens when he runs out if companies to merge and the whole house of cards comes down?

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  • [–] 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    He buys someone else’s good idea, promotes it as his idea, sues to say it’s his idea, the media buys that it’s his idea and touts him as a genius again, and he goes public with that company and merges them all once again

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    [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Shell game is running out of moves

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    I'm assuming doing so will make it more difficult to Nationalize when the time eventually comes.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I believe American taxpayers should prepare to bail out the resulting company. Soon. With mountains of money.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I'm assuming the larger bottle next to him is the ketamine, what's in the smaller one?

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  • [–] 20 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    I can't wait to see what Elon can do for Tesla with the extra budget from rolling it into SpaceX.

    Imagine how many amazing new promises and forecasts can be made and broken.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago*

    Ultimately you'll be able to summon your car anywhere … your car can get to you. I think that within two years, you'll be able to summon your car from across the country. It will meet you wherever your phone is … and it will just automatically charge itself along the entire journey."

    He said that shit in January 2016 😄

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    [–] 13 points 4 days ago* (5 children)

    The outlook of Tesla isn't great, so it is a perfect fit for SpaceX+xAI. All the brand new models are burning trash heaps, there are two cash cow models increasingly aging, even with the face lifts. It makes sense to consolidate everything into one big grift conglomerate.

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    [–] 14 points 4 days ago

    He lives only because you allow it

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    How can you be in talks to merge with yourself?

    (I’m referring to Elon not the company. I know they have their own president and board)

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    [–] 17 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    I predicted this when they had all their cars flying and shit. Its an advertisment for spacex while distracting from the car that theyre half a decade late to releasing.

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    [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    Oh, because they're worthless on their own? Noooo, that can't be

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