Same. The only value for me is when I’m traveling with a group of friends/family and we all want to stay together. That’s the only added value to an Airbnb for me.

AND YOU DONT HAVE TO CLEAN THE FUCKING HOTEL FOR THEM!

Wanna eat extra wet chicken wings in your king sized bed? Fuck it. The bones? Just toss ‘em on the floor!

(Just to be clear, don’t do that)

I always have my wife's dog with us and she barks a lot when left alone so we end up using them for that reason. We could use hotels, but I'm not an asshole and I don't want some stranger having to hear that.

I can stay in a hotel and be more confident they aren’t spying on me 24/7 with cameras, than I would be in some stranger’s house.

When it was cheaper for nicer accommodations we used it all the time. In the last 5 years I would never consider it. Far more expensive than a nice hotel, and with worse amenities.

For the last 5 or so years I've only used the P2P hospitality platforms if I'm looking for a specific amenity or if it's a group. There's an AirBnB I visit ~once per year that has a nice big hot tub right by a river. It's a unique stay and something a hotel couldn't really do, it's also around the same price as a nice hotel room.

Having a kitchen is nice in theory but if it's a short term stay it doesn't matter that much.

The platforms stopped being a bargain at some point with the fees and cleaning and rules. I can get a hotel room for around the same price that includes a breakfast and as long as I don't trash it they're thrilled to get my business.

Amex demands a lot from their partners. I worked at a mortgage mill for a bit and they had a dedicated team of Amex only people, and they had slightly different guidelines and KPIs.

Sidenote, hearing "KPI" wheb job searching is now an automatic "No" from me.

Hah was just having this conversation the other day. No way it's a coincidence,

Hotel in town where I live for £24/night with breakfast included. Mostly that cheap because who the fuck is coming here in October, its much more when various festivals are in the area.

The web site doesnt work because they want you to install the app so they can monetize you.

people with “I am gonna make money with no expenses, watch meh”

as an example:

"Consumables," are the perishable supplies. So that alone will put a damper on that mind-set.

If you make a product that requires you needing to handle said product with nitrile gloves, you're going to need to allocate some of your potential earnings back into the company and buy more nirile gloves until that specific consumable eventually pays for itself OR you charge a little extra to keep the consumables in stock.

It's a business that they're running, so if they're not able to use those fees to actually do what they say they're going to, then they need to accept the fact that people are no longer willing to pay for the services.

Like the person wearing the nitrile gloves isn't making the nitrile gloves but they're required to make the product.

So if you're paying a cleaning fee and they're making you clean, they're not using the money where it's supposed to be going OR they're not hiring a cleaning crew that can do what they need.

I've also seen some videos where some of the air b'n'b owners going, "if i need to do this by this time," well maybe they shouldn't be allowing guests so soon and booking on top of each other. As much as it is a business, if they're not running the business properly and only looking at the end profit gain...... then they shouldn't be doing what they're doing and look into doing something else.

Vacation apartments have been a thing for a lot longer than Airbnb. There are entire chains of vacation apartments, like https://visionapartments.com/en and https://www.limehome.com/en/ (I have stayed in both, but never used Airbnb at all).

Wow I didn't think they could go lower and it seems that they have

That's not "real estate" that's rent seeking. You would still have a real estate industry even if you banned all forms of rent seeking.

Bought my house a few years ago, would love to see prices drop. Ideally gradually rather than a sudden crash though. Like if they just stagnate in absolute value and inflation eats away at the labour required to pay for them, that would be great.

Higher minimum wage, static house prices. I see a lot of the middle class crying about minimum wage going up here, I say fuck em. Bring on a living wage for all!

Quick edit - currently rumoured to be that minimum wage will be rising £13.20 (17.50USD).

I do have a problem with them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/feb/27/seized-settled-let-how-airbnb-and-bookingcom-help-israelis-make-money-from-stolen-palestinian-land

We don't travel that often, but same, no issues. I hate hotels because of the added on fees and treating everyone like cattle. They remind me of Planet Fitness trying to get people to just sleep there and then get the hell out. From the stories, it sounds like the airbnb types are just getting as bad in different ways, but I haven't seen it yet.

For the most part that is true, but the biggest difference I have seen in the last 15 years is a drop in bed quality. You are almost guaranteed the cheapest bed imaginable at this point.