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[–] 7 points 6 days ago

Car dependency is definitely not bankrupting people... The wealth Gap and wage Gap and unrestrained capitalism are bankrupting people. But sure car dependencies definitely a part of that

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  • [–] 5 points 6 days ago

    The car is not the issue here. There is so much wrong with how much this person has spent a lot of items/services.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

    $1500 isn't nearly enough for a vacation.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago

    You missing a $150 monthly expense for weed. Other than that I can tell you're overspending on your car, $70 on car insurance is cheap lol as a 26 yo.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    Not the point of the post, i know, but who spends 70$ a month on on "gym"? I bought weights and a pullup bar for a one-time payment of like 50$, and i jog outside for free

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago

    Could be something like a YMCA which I personally prefer over a Planet Fitness when I do have a gym membership. One example of my preference for it is because mentally I can't do treadmills when running and some places I have lived before haven't bean great for running outside. Most YMCAs have an indoor track that you can run on even if it is tiny, and there are usually multiple options across town. Not many other gyms in my area with indoor tracks.

    That's a really dumb example. The OP could be a swimmer in which case a more expensive YMCA membership makes even more sense then. Just as another example.

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  • [+] -9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    *$70 and *$50. Congratulations, you look like an idiot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago*

    I think my next door neighbors are not going to be thrilled to have 220kg+ deadlifts dropped above them.

    Having said that, I don't spend 70 a month for the gym, and I currently have two memberships.

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    [–] 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I mean life is just expensive, yeah some of these items are a bit high but honestlyly overall it's pretty realistic if you aren't actively saving money and trying to live on the cheap.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    The issue is that it doesn't have to be as expensive as it is. The more prices increase and people pay those increased prices, the more they'll increase. People aren't willing to, collectively, stop their spending. They rationalize it like you have as "life" or they "treat yoself" themselves into financial ruin.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago

    And cars are this expensive after we've made almost all roads completely free to drive on.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    WTF $70 for internet? Is it that normal?

    I pay 21€ for mine.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 week ago

    In the US, yes. It's stupid expensive because we gave the telecoms a lot of money to upgrade the infrastructure and they didn't, so we gave them a bunch more but they still didn't. So now we pay off our debt to telecoms by paying too much for internet. Freedom.

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    [–] 13 points 1 week ago (18 children)

    I have a degree and I have never made 85k in my life. I never get a yearly vacation either, I hate to break it to whoever this person is but this is not “middle class” in 2026. This is upper middle class at least.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I have degrees, make $110k before taxes and overtime. Our household makes over $200k before taxes, with 2 kids. We are upper middle class, i think. $85k, single person household is firmly middle class.

    We do 1-2 large vacations with a dozen camp trips yearly. Our vehicles average age is also 20 years old and our house is way below what we could afford, so that may be part of our financial freedom.

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    [–] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Sell the $20,000 suv and get a 2004 Honda Civic or similar, and dont borrow any money to buy it

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It's wild how much these numbers vary across the Atlantic. Those car costs are tiny compared to living in the Netherlands or the UK for example. Fuel is much more expensive, as is parking.

    Phone and internet access on the other hand... you poor bastards are getting robbed. You can get a good mobile plan here for £10/mo for example. I have fibre to my home for £32/mo.

    Also, $60/mo for clothing? How often are you people buying new clothes?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago*

    In my country, mobile plan is same £10 (converted), for which I get unmetered 5G Internet, SMS and calls. You can get a decent one for less.

    Home fiber (800 Mbps) costs also about £10.

    All while my country is at war and its communication infrastructure is being targeted (it works just fine tho)

    I.e. you get robbed, and they go beyond sanity

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago

    That's only $720 a year for clothing, which is not that much, when a pair of good-quality jeans can be $75-120. It's cheaper if you buy the fast fashion shit with fabric that's going to wear through in 6 months, of course. Even better, that $60 is a king's ransom if you buy clothing by weight at the Dig 'n Save, as long as you don't mind wearing a 2007 Girls State Basketball Tournament sweatshirt.

    You have just discovered why so many Americans dress like total schlubs.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    It's interesting to compare these figures to my own situation, for sure.

    Housing costs: I live in a 3 room apartment (2 bedrooms + kitchen + living room + 1 bathroom), it's our equivalent of a condo which I had to spend ~$50k on a down payment. The total monthly cost on it is ~$1600, which I share with my partner. Some of that goes towards paying off the loan, and some of it becomes discounted because interest payments are tax deductible in my country. The apartment is located in what I would call not the most desirable but fully acceptable area of the capital of my country, with a 15 minute bike ride to reach the central station of my city, and the same to the office where I work. There's also plenty of transit available, but I prefer biking because it's fun, less expensive and gives me built in exercise.

    The insurance on the apartment is somewhere between $20-30/month, and covers both the apartment, accidental damage to property and travel insurance.

    For the garage, I pay $25/year for a private bike parking spot in one of the bike sheds in my apartment coop.

    I don't have a car, but there's some amount of cost to the upkeep of my bike. Generously I'd put it at $200/year maybe, but I've also spent some amount of upfront cost buying the thing.

    Health insurance is free in my country. A visit to the doctor will set you back perhaps $30, with a cap of ~$150 per year. There's also a cap on prescription medicine at $300 per year.

    Water + electricity + internet was included in the total monthly cost for the apartment. Our electricity/water costs represent maybe $30 of that expense post, and the internet comes at no extra cost in the apartment coop. I get a phone plan as a part of my employment contract, so I don't have to spend anything on that.

    For food at home, me and my partner spend maybe $400 between ourselves generously on home-cooked meals. For eating out it's maybe $100 a month at most.

    I cut my hair once every three months for around $30. My gym membership is $40/year, which covers both me and my partner (seriously, I love my apartment coop, it's the best). The only subscriptions I have are a VPN subscription setting me back a little under $4/month and Nebula which is $37.5/year. The toiletries I included in the food expenses.

    Student loans are comparatively inexpensive to service in my country. I pay about $200 quarterly on it.

    Weddings are not particularly common among my friends, and the last time I attended one was more than 5 years ago.

    I don't really drink any more, so there's no expense to be had on the alcohol front.

    Where I spend more is on vacations - I have 6 weeks of paid vacation per year, and I try to make good use of it. Sometimes this means taking the train to visit family, which is not particularly expensive since the train is cheap and food and accomodation with family is free, but at least once a year it means a longer vacation where we stay at hotels and eat out every day, making it a more costly affair.

    Being able to take home $5500 a month in my country would be extremely uncommon though, placing you very highly on the income scale.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago*

    Its nice to see a breakdown like this, but in the figures the "savings" section has a higher total than the "transportation" section...

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