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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

translation from Russian: they will keep bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine, but now it's going to be a "reaction" just because they were provoked

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don't want America to go to war with Iran.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

America just did go to war with Iran.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

I hate war.

But if daddy Vladdy is mad…

I still hate war.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control. Most are who we already knew: Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.

[–] blackbearjesus27@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the entire US intelligence arm, really any public intelligence period, etc.

I vehemently disagree with those folks you mentioned but gotta say, not wanting to get involved in another war in the Middle East built on outright lies doesn’t make them Kremlin controlled. It’s other things.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm just saying that it's amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who've long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:

  • You've got Tulsi Gabbard literally echoing Kremlin propaganda verbatim on Western imperialism (yet not making a peep about Russia's invasion of Ukraine)
  • You've got Tucker Carlson flying to Moscow, simping for Putin, trying to show how great Russia is in contrast to the USA.
  • You've got Rand Paul flying to Moscow hand-delivering letters on behalf of Trump.

There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Im not currently impressed but may change my tune within the year

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah real red blooded Americans want world war III

[–] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

Real Americans yell TACO at trump until he bombs Iran.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to think at this point the White House is just like two armed camps. The people that work for Putin and the people who work for Netanyahu. Few years ago I'd say they were sharing an uneasy truce, maybe even a burgeoning friendship, but now? God I hope they tear themselves apart.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget the 3rd camp of military industrial complexists, just in it to make money bombing whoever wherever

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Pretty sure that's the Netanyahu camp.

[–] maki@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“Very negatively” as opposed to what? Mild negativity?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Saber rattling, very menacingly.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

That's Russia and China in a nutshell. Trump does it too, but that's just because he's mimicking daddy Putin.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

A stern talking down to?

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Putin has already requested that Chuck Schumer write a strongly worded letter on his behalf.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Schumer said he would do it, but forgot 40 minutes later.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What are they going to do? Record 3 hour video of p*tin narrating imaginary history?

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Nah, they'll just use AI to do that.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Russia's basically already on two fronts and just lost a huge proportion of its strategic bombers.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

Iran is their ally yet they’ve allowed Israel to strike Iran with out repercussions so they’re sending a lot of mixed messages

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

trump really forgot the only reason he has a razor thin congressional majority, is Russia blackmailing Congress members into supporting him

Putin can make them all stop supporting trump just as easily.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

Putin this in my Putin wishlist.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Oh no are they going to lose another million soldiers about it and crash their economy even harder?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Killing Khamenei would be a bad move. That's how martyrs are made, and they are already dialed up to 11 in Iran, so there is no reason to pour even more oil in the fire.

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Khamenei is weak. Maybe he wasn’t in the beginning, but he has been for the past decade or so. Killing him is risky for US and Israel as that may potentially give Iran another stronger leader. Russia doesn’t want change either as Khamenei is known and manageable.

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Meh. I don't see much steering room for their course. It isn't Russia by the way, it's Putin and his regime.

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As long as they control the government, military, police and other stuff putin and his regime are russia. If russians don't like that they can make their own Maidan.

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That abstraction layer is correct, I think.

The thing with abstraction layers is: they are made to simplify a context. This makes it easier to understand and to see correlations and processes. It also hides details of the picture.

As far as I know there are people in Russia who work for their own goals. Those bridges don't collapse themselves and it takes someone to derail a train or sabotage a helicopter or provide intelligence about movements.

Yes. Most people just eat the propaganda or at least don't act up to evade repression (if they would care enough to do so otherwise). That's normal human behavior, it's no Russian specialty. Can you think of a current critical situation which would need immediate wide-spread attention, but people tend to ignore it?

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