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Normally, investors rush into Treasurys at a whiff of economic chaos but now they are selling them as not even the lure of higher interest payments on the bonds is getting them to buy. The freak development has experts worried that big banks, funds and traders are losing faith in America as a good place to store their money.

“The fear is the U.S. is losing its standing as the safe haven,” said George Cipolloni, a fund manager at Penn Mutual Asset Management. “Our bond market is the biggest and most stable in the world, but when you add instability, bad things can happen.”

That could be bad news for consumers in need of a loan — and for President Donald Trump, who had hoped his tariff pause earlier this week would restore confidence in the markets.

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 53 points 6 days ago

raises fear that confidence in America is fading

Just now that fear is being raised?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Why would anyone still have faith in this country?

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Shoots market in the dick

“Don’t worry folks, all part of the plan”

Puts bandages on market

“There, good as new”

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

USD denominated bonds are by definition 100% exposed to the USD and it has been falling consistently (with but a single dead cat bounce) against other major currencies since Trump took over.

International investors are probably avoiding the Dollar (and hence Dollar-denominated assets) in favor of other currencies.

This would also explain why Gold keeps on beating records almost daily: it's sort of a "traditional" currency hence benefits from outflows from major currencies.

If this turns into the end of the Reserve Currency status for the USD, expect massive problems in the US with Inflation and servicing the massive US National Debt (if Treasury auctions have lower demand, Treasure yields have to go up in order to sell them, which is equivalent to say that interest rates on US Government loans go up).

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Which makes sense to all of us who see Trump as a Russian asset who's goal is not to cripple America but to destroy it. This is the end game and why Americans need to really ramp up their protests. This is the literal death of America we are witnessing as killed by Russia (and probably China too)

[–] michel@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

And remember he doesn’t have to be an official asset, merely being someone useful to them effectively does the same thing - with deniability for the Russians

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

killed by Russia

And don't forget tech-bros like Elon Musk.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

His whole cabinet is full of Israeli loyalists and you are all still out here talking about Russia. Dude open your eyes.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Because one is a distraction.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

God investors are dumb as shit

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Investors are the problem?

I for one like stability when my money is involved, and most people do. Most arent looking for the roulette wheel experience. When you have an idiot wielding tremendous power to throw out trade agreements and to inadvertently or intentionally tank certain businesses and industries because they're significantly affected by tariffs, and from one day to the next they're added, removed, added again, increased, now decreased... that's not a place you want your money. And the government's where those businesses reside aren't stable either as their future taxes and revenue streams are hard to predict, so their bonds are dicey.

So what do you think investors should do? So what are you doing? Just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice? Got any major purchases coming up? Hoping to retire soon? If you lost your job how secure you feeling about getting another right now? Maybe invest in $TRUMP... I'm sure that will carry you.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Yeah the idea that NOW is when they fear confidence in America is fading means they're fucking morons. It should have been obvious after the first round of tariff bailouts in trumps first admin.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] suite403@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

They mean the rich fucks. Not me and you.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 days ago

I know that my quality of life is likely to tank in the coming years, and if it doesn't it is because I got lucky where others didn't, but damn is it hilarious seeing how fucking stupid centrist business bros and tech people are in the U.S. right now, they are JUST NOW realizing the boat is sinking, when only half of the boat is still above the water..... it is fucking hilarious honestly and I don't take joy in this happening, I mean I do, but I am not happy it is happening I am rather so sad that if I don't laugh about it all I will do is cry.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

I mean they voted for a criminal. So yeah.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Literally the moment Trump won I pulled all of my investments off of the stock market.

I just knew shit will hit the fan. Here I am not losing 10% of my savings because of the crazy cheetos man and his crazy stupid nazi sponsor

For now.. Only a matter of time until this trickles out from stocks and into salaries, prices, benefits, etc

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Google searches for stable foreign bonds skyrockets

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I sold 98% of mine.

now I'm diversified across Europe and Asia.

not great, but what choice do I have?

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