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Darren Bullock, 40, is a Trump voter who switched from the Democrats in 2016.

He is likely to lose Medicaid coverage because of the new requirements, although he is not hopeful of finding adequate employment.

“If they want people to work 80 hours a month, they’d need to bring in a lot more jobs,” he says.

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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Oh no. At least the libs got owned.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“If they want people to work 80 hours a month, they’d need to bring in a lot more jobs,” he says.

Why 80 hours? Is that a threshold that has taken on a specific meaning in the US political discord? Otherwise it seems a little random, that's like a 50% employment, right?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're being generous to the elderly and disabled people who can't work by only making them work half time.

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shouldn't be an issue for the average Alzheimer's victim.

/s

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I mean if Biden and Trump can manage...

/s

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 35 points 2 days ago

Not voting for anyone also did this.

Remember, Jill Stein's exact words were 'We can deny votes to Kamala Harris.' Not 'We can deny votes to Donald Trump.'

Every single one of you white lily fuckfaces who chants 'both sides' brought this on yourselves.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] falynns@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd be a lot more sympathetic if they weren't all still blaming everyone but themselves. Like that Florida congresswoman punished by her own party's bills over women's healthcare somehow still blaming liberals.

Take responsibility for your fuck up, admit you were wrong, and I'm absolutely willing to work with them to fix these problems.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

See, this guy right here is what politics should be.

The democrats should say "This problem should be tackled THIS way!"

And the republicans should say "I disagree. I think the problem should be tackled THAT way!"

And then you, the american voter, should then go to your local polling booth, and cast your vote for whom you think is right.

But that's not what this is.

Politics, for at least my entire lifetime, has been a bunch of weak men and women grasping at straws, trying to consolidate power for their individual selves. The DNC is quite frankly a corrupt shitshow. They don't know who they want in, but they have a long list of whom they want to keep OUT.

And the RNC isn't much better. They have solidarity. That's it. They will all agree with the plan, regardless of if that plan is stupid or not. They will just line up to kiss the ring, and provide a united front. In their own minds they think that makes them strong.

But at no time are either of these groups worried about the american people. They're worried about their own careers. They're worried about their status in the political world. They're worried about their ego.

That's what's missing in this country. A leader who cares about the nation. The whole nation. Not just their career. Not just their side. But EVERYONE.

Politics should be two opposing ideas that differ from each other on the best way to serve the country. Instead, somewhere along the way it became two sides that are enemies.

I lean left, and more democrat on many things. But republicans SHOULDN'T be the enemy. And if you're a republican, democrats SHOULDN'T be the enemy. These two sides may be opposite sides, but they're meant to be two sides of the same coin. That coin being america.

So the poster above me, even though they didn't call any of that out specifically, they do embody the spirit of what I'm saying. Someone leaning to the left, seeing a right wing person feeling the ill effects of their own choices.

And their response is "if you can own up to your own mistakes, I'll help you dig out of them."

THAT is whats missing in this country.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it a typo? Didn't they mean 80 hours per week?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

No typo. They’re saying you need to work at least half time in order to qualify for Medicaid.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 90 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“If they want people to work 80 hours a month, they’d need to bring in a lot more jobs,” he says.

Who is exactly is the “they” in this sentence?

If you want the government to provide you with employment opportunities and free healthcare, then you should consider not voting for the team that is privatizing every public (government) sector.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

It's worse. They mean the 1%

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Plenty of work available doing the jobs you previously refused to so they turned to immigrants to do.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago

The "more jobs" they are bringing is the reason they're deporting all the migrant workers.

Have fun being an indentured servant to a plantation owner & get "paid" via a discount on medical bills...

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Of the 200 counties with the highest proportion of voters reliant on public health insurance, a staggering 84pc voted for Trump in last year’s election.

Nowhere exemplifies this contradiction more than Knox County, where 72pc of people backed the Republican presidential candidate.

Here, 68pc of the population use some form of public health insurance, and of the 3,142 counties in America, it is one of the top 20 poorest

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago (6 children)

There’s stupid and then there’s USA stupid. A very special breed of moron because of how obvious it is that they’re fucked, how they have the money and resources to fix it, and how they refuse to do the right thing so hard that they actively shoot themselves in the feet, legs, arms, torsos, and just about everywhere to avoid even needing to consider thinking about helping other people.

Like, at least the right-wingers in better countries are living in the good world that more leftist policies have built. They’re dumb as hell but at least they’re not steeped in the thick shit of the right to the point where it should be too bad to ignore.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

And then there's Brexit.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not like they haven't already tried it either. We've been doing the same policies since Reagan and they continue to fail and continue to be doubled down on. Hell, Kansas was touted as the example of what conservative policies could do under Brownback. They created their conservative utopia and it crashed hard. They couldn't even afford to keep their schools open for the full school year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment

Conservatives looked at that massive failure and said they wanted more.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It's because all that failure is making some very influential individuals very wealthy.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We've been doing the same policies since Reagan and they continue to fail and continue to be doubled down on.

You say "fail" as if they aren't working exactly as intended.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends on perspective. They failed for the 99% of us.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well of course, but they're a roaring success for the people the instigators of the policies actually give a shit about.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Presumably not the people that the voters care about.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They’re dumb as hell but at least they’re not steeped in the thick shit of the right to the point where it should be too bad to ignore.

Propaganda works. If you believe any country is immune, you’re wrong. Heads up. CPAC is already in Canada, the UK and Poland. Murdoch sewers are everywhere.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I read an article once about a guy who grew up in a poor rural area in the US that changed my opinion a bit. He talked about how progressive and left leaning people want to help the poor and uneducated, but typically only in major city centers.

Poor people in major cities are seen as victims of society. Socioeconomic forces beyond their control have caused them to fall behind and they need help! Rap music is the voice of the oppressed! Poor people in rural towns are seen as hillbillies who should have paid more attention in science class instead of playing football and taking their cousin to prom. Country music is for hicks! Combine this with the stats that inner city poverty is mostly minorities and rural poverty is mostly white people and you get a sense as to how rural people can see progressive programs as "racist". It certainly doesn't help that this idea is beamed into their heads by billionaire funded propaganda like Fox News.

A tech company lays off 1,000 employees and there's rage, but a coal mine shuts down putting 1,000 people out of work and there's cheers. Biden telling rural Americans facing the loss of their livelihood "learn to program" is pretty rich coming from a wealthy successful man who likely doesn't know how to work a computer, let alone know how to program one. Republican politicians at least pretend to care about run down rural towns. And if they don't do that, at least they pledge to knock those smug city slickers down a few pegs! Send the Marines into LA!

Hopefully the US can fix its urban-rural divide. I have no idea how that would happen, but it seems to be a major hindrance to class consciousness.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Bullshit. Medicaid helps regardless where you live, and rural people are probable on Medicaid to a higher percentage. Funding to keep rural hospitals open, pretty much helps rural people by definition.

Yes jobs are another thing entirely, but if you buy the bs that we’ll reopen coal mines and create thousands of new jobs, you’re just hopelessly lost and deceived. Those jobs were already gone. Consider the trends of over half a century of those jobs disappearing with automation, even when coal mining was increasing. Those jobs haven’t existed in this guys lifetime so there’s nothing to come back to.

He might also look around at the environmental destruction and consider whether he really wants that, to make some coal baron wealthy while creating negligible jobs.

There’s got to be a better way

  • which party wants to build new energy source through the region, adding at least some jobs but as an investment in the future without the environmental destruction?
  • which party wants to invest in infrastructure so you can get where you need to go, so businesses at least can function if they were there?
  • which party wants universal broadband, bringing the knowledge of the world to everyone, remote appointments and at least a few people can remote work?
  • which party tried to fund commercial investment, training investment, even knowing it would be a slog?

I still say they’re either low knowledge and gullible, or somehow believe destruction is better than trying ineffectively or starting on a long path

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

this idea is beamed into their heads by billionaire propaganda

There it is.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read an article once about a guy who grew up in a poor rural area in the US that changed my opinion a bit. He talked about how progressive and left leaning people want to help the poor and uneducated, but typically only in major city centers.

I think I know the article you're talking about (although I'm having a hard time finding it again), but I don't think that's quite what it said.

It's more like progressives are perceived by rural people as not wanting to help them, because the type of help they offer is assistance in moving or retraining or otherwise changing in order for their lives to improve. This is because the progressives understand (correctly) that the jobs that used to sustain the small towns are never coming back, regardless of how much the rural people want them to.

The writer then pointed out (also correctly) that this "elitist" approach was not effective in solving the problem.

Unfortunately, I don't remember what the author's conclusion/recommendation of a better strategy was.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Good explanation, plus yes, there is no easy solution. Yes it’s quite possible the only solution is for people to move away. Sucks for your town but those people may be better off

I’ve actually been thinking about this a bit lately. Early in my career I expected to go where the jobs were, and expected to move every few years. However now I’m established. I like it here and would not want to move. Of course part of the reason is the number of job possibilities but I do wonder whether I’m still open to moving should they dry up

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You nailed it. I have yet to read anything that outlines Trump voters better than this:

How Half of America Lost It's Fucking Mind

I always enjoy reading that article cause it really highlights how smug the left can get when it comes to other people.

There was the thread about a how a Cuban woman who voted for Trump and her father got detained in the ICE raids. Sadly, it took an event to help her learn the error of her ways. She did seem remorseful and wanted to grow from the experience. Yet the vast majority of comments were all dog piling her. I can imagine that every comment that she read about this was her fault, she’s stupid, etc. There was a tiny voice her head going “See, we were right. The left is intolerant. The left is full of jerks and assholes. We never shit on you for your mistakes.”

These types of comments just drive people back to Conservatism and their old beliefs. From what I heard, the Cuban woman grew up around Conservatism and was brainwashed to think “I’ll be spared cause I conformed to Conservative values.” Not realizing that those spreading that propaganda are straight up fucking racists.

The left really does need to start saying to people “It’s alright. You were hoodwinked. We’re going to help you get through this; direct action, mutual aid, etc.”

Unless of course the person whose face is being eaten by a leopard is an unrepentant asshole. Then fuck em. Sympathy and understanding should be left to those who are willing to learn.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Republican politicians at least pretend to care about run down rural towns.

They don’t, it’s just a safe audience since Fox News and talk radio brainwashed everyone.

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[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Americans will shoot anything

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Except nazis, apparently.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

MAGA - Morons and Genuine Assholes

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is The Telegraph using "pc" instead of "%"?

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

No idea. Honestly surprised they put an otherwise legible article together

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trillions over the long term.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago

And it will be long term. It's far easier to destroy than to build, or repair.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Big Billionaire Boondoggle

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

They shot themselves in the foot. And now they can't afford to get their foot treated.

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