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More Canadians avoid setting foot in the U.S., 'without even a connection or layover' (www.nbcnews.com)
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Summary

Canadians are boycotting U.S. travel in response to Trump’s tariffs and policies. A recent survey found 59% are less likely to visit the U.S. this year, with 36% canceling trips.

Airlines report declining demand, and tourism-dependent regions like Florida and New York’s Thousand Islands are adjusting marketing strategies.

Some Canadians refuse to even transit through the U.S. Businesses in Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda are benefiting from the shift.

Critics argue Trump’s policies are harming American tourism and local economies.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The tariffs are one thing, the 51st state threats are another, I would say more major thing.

And then you have the horror stories of the German tourist and that woman from BC applying for a visa renewal at the border. Neither have been convicted of committing a criminal or civil offence yet (the first one just flimsily accused), and instead of being just turned away or even given the option to buy an expensive return ticket on the spot, Customs and Border Patrol see it fit to just stuff them into prison-like accommodations with no firm timelines as to when they get out. Seems cruel and unusual to me, so I can understand why not many Canadians would like to take a chance with that, even if they don't actually do any work, that an officer could get caught up over anything.

Add onto that the new 30 day registry rules means clearly the US doesn't want us around for that long.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

canada will never be a state of the US, neither will denmark or panama. its all just maga bots yapping their cod online. trump is just a wannabe putin.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Trump needs to smash/possess both Canada & Greenland for the simple reason that to crush/destroy the EU, in a pincer, with Putin, the staging-ground is required.

Canadians would be either slaughtered, enslaved, or whatever.

The US is going to declare war on Canada in 2-2.5y.

The world has changed.

Relying on assumed-entitlement & making-believing, as the US's Democrats did, is suicide.

I hope that Zelenskiy isn't as foolishly-trusting/naive as "it's all just maga bots yapping" is, xor Ukranians are going to lose much more, permanently.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh geez, those registry rules. We used to make jokes about the Soviet Union: "papers please!" US Xenophobia will end up removing all their freedoms. It'll be about "catching illegal aliens" but the effect will be total internal travel restrictions and tracking for US citizens. I really hope they wake up before it's too late.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

I really hope they wake up before it’s too late.

Narrator: They didn't.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a dual citizen (and live in a third country). I wanted to show my wife more of the US museums and parks, as well as having her meet more of my family. It's 100% off the table now. There's zero chance, even for two weeks, I put my wife (who already speaks very little English) in that situation. Also, fuck giving the US any extra money.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Did you see this? It's potentially dangerous to bring your wife there.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And I'm avoiding visiting Canada because I know I won't want to come back.

Any Canadians feel like adopting a middle-aged American manchild?

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey, no cutting in line. I was here first.

So anyway, I prefer a family within an hour or two of a ski area. It's not a deal breaker, though. References available upon request.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Serious answer to an unserious question: adopting an adult is legally possible in about half the jurisdictions in Canada, and then most of those jurisdictions require the adoptee to be a citizen or permanent resident. https://adoptingback.com/adopting-back/canada-adult-adoption-law/

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Any bets on when the first flight neither originating in, or ever landing in, the USA gets grounded by jets so they can deport someone on the plane?

I know it makes absolutely no sense, but neither does this timeline.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

And if the West does sweet fuck-all when Russia and Belarus does it, what do you think they can do when America does it?

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

As a rule of thumb I don’t travel to countries run by dictatorships and have no fair judicial systems .

[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Seeing the news this isn't even a matter of boycott but safety. Ice is not very discerning

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm one of the 36%. With ICE, the US being more hostile in general, and questionable aviation safety, I've changed my destination from California to Australia.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

good call mate

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would have done that even if the US wasn't turning to shit.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gday, and hope you enjoy!
Our beaches are much better anyway :)

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Thank you! 😃 Any beaches you recommend?

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with the oyher comment to jusk the locals in whatever city or town you are in and there will be a really nice beach literally everywhere you go.
We are extremely lucky to have beautiful soft white sand beaches, and chances are you will have a large section to yourself as we have a small population which is clustered around capitol cities, the only exception being is that the nice beaches in capitol cities can be popular in summer. Dont even think about places like Bondi, seeing that on TV shows gives me anxiety. There are beaches near me in WA that have sand so fine that it literally queaks as you walk, it can be weirdly satisfying.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Queensland: Gold coast and sunshine coast

NSW: manly (Sydney)

West: Perth

There are probably better ones but I'll have to defer to locals.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t either. When I travel abroad, I always make sure my layovers aren’t on 3rd world soil.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is it. If you're on American soil, even during a layover, you're bound to American rules of law. There was already a Canadian citizen who was detained in a ICE facility.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i believe you...but do you have the article to back up that claim? i would like to save it for later dates

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I live close to the border, I went to the USA for shopping and vacations 200+ times in 25 years. I went once or twice per month. I have not ben there since October 2024 and doubt I will return.

When doing grocery, like everyone here, I avoid all and every USA things.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I took a drink every time I read a lemmy post about some country hating on the current US, thought to myself "Can't blame em", and kept scrolling, I'd be wasted before I got out of bed.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I spend too much time online and this has probably created a bias, it looks like most people around me don't really care. Yesterday I even stumbled upon some comments on Lemmy who thought BuyFromEU was about European nationalism and not about the shit that is going on in USA.. Sigh. Anyway, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, not good to hate too much, but it seems healthy to trust USA a bit less now. /rant

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most people around you probably don't really know. I get the distinct impression that, even among otherwise politically-active people who should know better, there's a fuck-ton of normalcy bias going on among the American public right now.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

I should had clarified i'm not an american, i'm from eastern europe.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So many column inches and yet all the American articles dodge the real issue. Tariffs are bad and threatening the economy has made them a lot of enemies, but that isn’t why Canadians suddenly did a heel turn on our election and are united across provincial, social and political borders in opposition to the US.

It’s because Trump repeatedly threatened our sovereignty, belittled our government and insulted us. We can take jokes on the chin, nobody cares being called maple syrup drinking hosers that live in America’s hat and only care “aboot” hockey.

We care that our existence as a country has been threatened, repeatedly and specifically. It’s hilarious reading American articles deliberately ignore this, when it’s all the Canadian media can talk about.

When your biggest ally can’t even commit to not using military force to invade you or annex you, you fight back. When foreign oligarchs think they can put their finger on the scale in your election, you fight back.

People are fucking pissed & united, in a way I’ve never seen before in this country and if they think we’re just going to lie down they have another thing coming. Put that in a goddamn article.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Also the arrest by ICE on someone with a paperwork error is middle east level BS

[–] NorthoftheBorder@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Was going to fly to Boston with my sister to see a Laker's game this March, but that's all off the table now. No tickets, no hotel, no flights; we'll use the money for a different game, maybe in Toronto. I'm not stepping foot in the US if I can help it, in solidarity with many other Canadians. Just how it is right now.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I question if it's even safe for outsiders to go to the Untied States

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Highly depends on where. Many states aren't safe for Americans to set foot in, much less foreigners.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How are people getting to Mexico from Canada without going through the US? You’d have to take one heck of a convoluted flight path to avoid US airspace. Can you actually fly over the US direct to Mexico from Canada without going through US customs?

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely you can. I can get a direct flight from Vancouver Island to Mexico, but usually transfer in Van. I’ve seen direct flights from Calgary as well.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s good, though I still feel uncomfortable about it!

Am I paranoid for worrying that the US might order flights from Canada to Mexico to be diverted to a US airport so that ICE can look for “illegals and DEI folk”?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It might happen once, at which point there'll be a colossal uproar. Even compared to the various other uproars we've been hearing. I'm sure you'll notice if it happens.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Belarus did this a few years ago with a flight from somewhere else to Lithuania that was carrying a Belarusian dissident. The few minutes it spent in Belarusian airspace was enough for the air force to intercept it, force it to land and arrest the dissident.

IIRC, there was a huge outrage, which didn’t help the dissident (rogue states gonna go rogue and all that), but since then, no EU/western flights have overflown Belarus.

[–] courageousstep@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans fuck around, Americans find out.

This world doesn’t need us. We’ve enjoyed decades of undeserved praise and good will from the world, and it’s inflated our ego enough that we think we’re invincible.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's oblique to what you said:

I think that it's actually cultural-narcissism based, and I'm saying that as a person who discovered that class-narcissism is a cultural-narcissism, at the end of a 25-day hard-line-fast to crack an obstacle in my unconscious-mind..

Cultural-narcissism seems to be a root-rabies in .. all? .. I think so .. of our cultures.

All the "it isn't G-D that is The Only Savior, it is OUR RELIGION that is The Only Savior" narcissisms are examples of cultural-narcissism..

but the US of A made narcissism into its banner, to some extent..

& I think that that, itself, betrayed your culture, & certainly your people..

Remember what the TV-footage of people in the US was like, after Sept 11, 2001?

All the people wearing "superhero" outfits?

Their unconscious-minds asserting through the outfit they were wearing that reality wasn't allowed to treat them as mere-humans?

Their symbol-outfit, or symbol-culture, was supposed to be sufficient?

They were supposed to be inherently immune?

I think it was one of the most-blatent expressions of unconscious-mind's delusion-about-non-equality in recent history.

& I think that ALL national-narcissisms are doing the same thing, in different ways..

I think cultural-narcissism knifes-in-the-back the country it grows-in, inevitably.

"The world doesn't need us" Hoomin, the world needs good people, no matter what country you're in.

The world doesn't need machiavellian nationalism, not ANYone's, right?

But the world NEEDS good people, now, everywhere.

& we need to not break or give-up, until we win..

no matter how many decades this takes.

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