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In December, Luigi Mangione was arrested for shooting health insurance executive Brian Thompson. Last week, Trump’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, announced that she was seeking the death penalty. It’s a highly unusual announcement, since Mangione hasn’t even been indicted yet on a federal level. (He has been indicted in Manhattan.) By intervening in this high-profile case, the Trump administration has made clear that it believes that CEOs are especially important people whose deaths need to be swiftly and mercilessly avenged.

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[–] SparroHawc@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Sigh. Yet another article assuming Mangione's guilt. Ben Burgis didn't even bother to say 'allegedly' anywhere.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yessss....show us you fear.....we feed on it.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He'd became a martyr. The best chance way the ruling class could handle this is letting him go on the condition that he denies every publicity possible for a given years, even "just" imprisonment would communicate "we fear guys like this".

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's very naive of people to think that in an authoritarian dictatorship controlled by the world's wealthiest people, that there won't be a LOT of unjust deaths in the coming years.

I will be positively shocked if they don't make a very public example of Mangione. It's going to hurt and that's what they want. They want to kill him in front of us so we feel pain. Then they're going to do it again and again with other people whom we don't want to see die. Remember that. This is what happens.

This is what 45% of eligible voters thought would never happen so they stayed home. Too much trouble. Too hard to figure out the truth (by googling for 30 seconds). Too many excuses to not rock the boat, and now the boat is rocking us all out.

[–] Liberteez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The truth is, Luigi will be an exceptional martyr. The majority of deaths will be forgotten by the masses, because a million deaths is a statistic.

The key in the coming years is to survive, organize, strategize, and recover. Dying is a waste. We must all do what it takes to live and fight from a better position.

Our saving grace is the incompetency of the enemy. They are following plans created decades ago by aging and dying villains. The inheritors are inept and despicable.

Hitler shot himself and Mousolini was ripped to pieces because they overplayed their hands. Keep in touch with a local community, and figure out a way forward once our enemy is vulnerable.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Sadly I think he's going to be a martyr like Alexi Navalny. The 1% is patient, and they know they can distract us and grind us down. We can raise hell for a moment, but they know our weakness is our stomaches.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He didn’t do it.

They’re pinning some rich guy bullshit on him.

Brian Thompson was stepping out in his wife.

She hired a hitman from El Salvador to kill him so she could have all his stuff.

Luigi is just some kid swept up in police railroading.

Luigi is innocent.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you have evidence you should send it to the court

That sounds like a thing they’ll let happen

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago
[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (1 children)

None of this, of course, is to say that what Mangione did was justifiable or wise.

Um, fuck you? He hasn't been convicted and the author's assumption here, that Mangione is guilty of what he has been accused of, is part of the fucking problem.

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[–] aooooaa@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Your observation about the timing of Bondi's call for the death penalty—before a federal indictment—is particularly sharp and highlights the political dimensions effectively. From experience observing these processes, such early, high-profile interventions are indeed rare and often signal broader political messaging, like the implied valuation of the victim's status you discuss. It's a crucial perspective on how justice can intersect with politics in high-profile cases.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This guy killed a patrician and now that class has totally seized controlled of government.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

we're not real big on justice at the moment...

[–] Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago
[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 117 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm glad they're seeking the death penalty.

Because it makes it much easier for the defence team to argue that the prosecution is trying to turn the law into a spectacle, and that Luigi should be acquitted of all charges.

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 140 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The bullets Mangione used to kill Thomson had “deny,” “delay,” and “depose” inscribed on them.

Allegedly. The reporter forgot to be professional for a moment.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The reporters can always seem to sane-wash Trump and his ilk, and always give them the benefit of the doubt, but not Mangione. Musk gave a salute that was "awkward" and "looked similar to" a Nazi salute, but Mangione is just presumed guilty. Trump is a "successful businessman" despite bankrupting numerous companies, but Mangione is assumed to be a guilty evil murderer before he's even indicted!

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago
[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 158 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I think the death penalty being on the table would increase the likelihood of the jury finding a reasonable doubt or jury nullification. It would only hurt the prosecution imo.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 3 days ago (10 children)

OR it's going to prejudice the jury against him, like it usually does.

When capital punishment is on the table, only people who are in favor of it are selected for the jury, and people who are in favor of state murder are MUCH more likely to return a guilty verdict than people who aren't.

That's one of hundreds of reasons why civilized legal systems don't murder prisoners anymore.

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[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

He’s a real true America hero and a patriot! Que Viva Luigi!

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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