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  • Donald Trump has imposed a 17 per cent tariff on tomatoes imported from Mexico, raising concerns about increased prices for consumers and businesses.
  • The tariffs took effect after the US withdrew from the nearly three-decade-old Tomato Suspension Agreement, with the Secretary of Commerce stating American farmers had been 'crushed by unfair trade practices'. The Commerce Department calculated the 17 per cent import tax to measure the percentage by which Mexican tomatoes were allegedly sold at unfair prices in the US.
  • The measure is expected to result in higher costs at supermarkets and restaurants, with one Californian restaurant owner predicting bankruptcy within three months.
  • Mexico, which supplies about 70 per cent of US tomatoes, has refuted claims of dumping, insisting the popularity of their produce is due to its quality, and stated that substitution would be impossible.
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[–] The_v@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For those that don't know for fresh market tomatoes.

Indeterminate tomato vines can be grown for years if they don't freeze.

Mexico has invested heavily in greenhouses, high tunnels and thrip-proof net-houses. These allow for year round production of tomatoes. This was done with government money.

Canada has also invested heavily in greenhouses to grow tomatoes and produce them year round. This was also done with government money.

Meanwhile the U.S. focused on open field machine harvested sauce tomatoes controlled by massive corporations. There are still some U.S. tomato growers that rely almost 100% on immigrant labor. In general they produce 1/10th the tonnage per acre at higher cost even with the cheap labor.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

What manufacturing sector of the American economy doesn't focus on migrant labor?

[–] crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Trump probably hasn't eaten a vegetable his whole life. Now if it was an increase on a KFC bucket of chicken, this would not happen.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Having worked at McDonald’s I imagine he’s one of the “no pickles, no onions, no lettuce, no tomatoes, add bacon, extra bacon, extra mayo” guys.

And no salt on the fries during rush when the fries are already fresh + multiple salt packets.

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[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Technically, he likes ketchup on his steak I thought so does that count as a vegetable?

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Out of all his war crimes, this one might be the worst

[–] crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

It is condiment, so no, but probably the closet to one he has ever come.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It mainly counts as corn syrup. Have you ever had Canadian ketchup? It's so much better tasting

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Trump doesn't pay for shit so why would he care how much food costs?

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[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Buy local, folks. I got far higher quality tomatoes at a farm stand the other day than I can find at any big box store in the US. The prices can't be beat.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Buy local, and buy seasonal. That's just as important, because if you're shopping for avocados in Milwaukee in November, those fuckers have traveled a long way and was picked a long time ago. You might not live in a climate that has oranges or strawberries year round. Accept this and choose food that doesn't have a swollen climate footprint.

Also eat free-range billionaires. Eating one billionaire would do more good for the climate than every other change you and 300 of your friends could make.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I love me a farm fresh avocado picked ripe from the Milwaukee avocado farms every June.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Not eating anything except local produce might get you winter scurvy in some places.

But you have a good sensible point about the billionaires.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

One word: cabbage.

Two words: yummy cabbage.

Many words: I actually agree with you in general, I just love cabbage which, on top of many other benefits, is SUPER high in vitamin C and excellently suited for climates where not much grows in winter🙂

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

There are plenty of sources of vitamin c that are available in the winter. Broccoli, kale, and Brussels sprouts are all available in colder climates well into fall and winter. Sailors would get scurvy from eating fish and cured meat and drinking only ale and water for months at a time. Malnourished children get scurvy because of neglect. It's not that hard for adults with access to fresh food and sufficient economic freedom to get enough vitamins.

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[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Learning to eat what's seasonal is a great way to understand world cuisines better. It's advantageous when traveling...

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Enjoy it while there are still pickers working on said farm.

[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're family-run operations, proudly owned by generations of Latinos, in many local cases. You're talking full-on internment camps if they're to forcibly remove these legal citizens from their businesses. I'm not saying that isn't in the works but these aren't only field workers vulnerable to being terrorized. There's a vast co-op network they pull resources from. If trump is going to truly go after all production, food will cease to be available. We will see economic destruction that will make the Great Depression pale in comparison.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing seems far fetched anymore. It's only the commitment to total devastation that gets him chickening out.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are such farm stands present in cities, though?

[–] IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pretty much every major city in the US. I've been to farmer's markets in multiple red cities and multiple blue cities.

Though, in some cities, they're only open half the year because of weather conditions in the other half.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds great while they are open, thanks.

[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depends on the region. I can find about 5 on Victoria Avenue in Riverside, California alone. Farm stands are everywhere under our noses in this state and we can wind up overlooking these amenities.

In LA, back in the day, I would have been going to farmer's markets more, which are a bit more work because they have limited schedules. Still, there are brilliant places like Super King there, that have a lot of value for the money. I also miss other specialties there like sushi-grade fish mongers, etc. There are quite a lot of options in Southern California and beyond such as Latino supermarket chains like Vallartas, Cardena's and Northgate/Gonzalez Bros as well as Asian options like 99 Ranch Market.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

That's great in the high summer, but good luck finding those locally grown tomatoes in January.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

They don't seem to farm tomatoes locally where I am, but the local half-runner beans are great.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

That 17% tariff will magically turn into 200% price increases thanks to algorithmic price fixing.

[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm so glad I accidentally over planted tomato seeds now. I'll have to give some extras to our neighbors, we really only have a little patio to put stuff on or the apartment flips out.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look out for each other.

Society is no longer.

But we are strong together.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

What an odd statement. What is society, if not a group of people looking out for each other?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

You can have hydroponic cherry tomatoes indoors in 90 days.

The initial setup needs lights and aquarium air pump some rock wool tomato seeds and a couple of 5 gallon buckets and a little hydroponic fertilizer.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Good thing egg prices have dropped.

Wait...

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My local grocery store sells tomatoes starting at $3.99/lb.

A pack of seeds was $1.50 and my plants are 2-4' tall and loaded.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Which is great and all if you have room to grow them—and aren’t a complete brown thumb. But a lot of people live in high-rise apartments without so much as a balcony.

And before someone recommends container growing indoors—assuming the apartment is oriented so the tomato gets enough light—that adds also the cost of pot, soil, and probably fertilizer, and then you have a very toxic plant in your house, which needs to be kept away from kids and pets.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ahh true. I do have outdoor pots for mine and natural sunlight. My grow tent houses herbs like basil that I use year round.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sure, it's midsummer. But if the tariffs are still on in December... Well, I'll probably still have cherry tomatoes on my balcony in Los Angeles, but it won't work for someone in Minnesota.

Fortunately, TACO.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Right after Canada and the EU backed down on the foreign digital taxes.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

anything to get people to stop talking about the epstein files, hes been doing tariffs since last week.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The real reason for all of this is he wants to disenfranchise the poor and destitute to the point where they have no choice but join the army to get food and healthcare.

They are force feeding the machine.

You know why they need that? Because a BIG WAR is coming.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

they haven't figured out what the big war will be but they're working as hard as their fat ceo asses will let them

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

They should just throw them over the wall.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

Donaldine Trumpuannette: let them eat kiwi instead.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Is this some kind of american problem that im too european to understand? /j

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

A small price to pay for freedom.

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