Musicians have long criticized the streaming service’s paltry payouts, but a new wave of boycotts is emerging

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[–] 76 points 1 year ago (16 children)

for anyone this inspires to make the jump, i recommend Tidal and Bandcamp.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They is also Mirlo which plan to federate

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Looking at tidal, there doesn't appear to be a way to search for music? Am I losing it?

    Edit: you have to login first. Honestly, bad first impression already.

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I started buying music in 2015 (mostly Bandcamp) and I have no regrets. I have a big library now of drm free music. Some months I spend nothing and still enjoy music, without ads.

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    [–] 41 points 1 year ago

    Good for them. Bands don't need ai training on their songs without compensation.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As a hoarder, I spend more time listening to new music than not, and Spotify' features and personalized discovery algorithms help tremendously with that.

    These days more and more AI songs are creeping into my Spotify and I notice them. That has caused me to be suspicious of every song I hear enough that even when I find a good real song, the enjoyment is undercut by that constant underlying feeling of "this could be AI" even though I know it isn't.

    I'm absolutely livid and disgusted at Spotify for making me feel that way. Discovery was the one thing keeping me on that wretched platform. I imagine I'll be slowly migrating to a self-hosted solution. I just really wish foss had more private and open personalized discovery features (or any at all for that matter, and not just for music).

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I want to jump ship it's just daunting when the other platforms I try can't match the library. I ported a small playlist to Qobuz and only a third of the tracks were available. I have an offline library but I have been lazy and its unmaintained.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I don't mind sourcing my own music, but what I want is to be suggested songs based on what I listen to. My musical horizons have broadened a lot thanks to that.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I can't picture a service which beats Spotify in what they offer which isn't just the same business model but more ethical.

    Discovering music for free is an enormous benefit, and the fact that Spotify has practically all mainstream music is nice. People often cite that one quote by Gabe Newell that is "Piracy is not an economic problem. It is a service problem", as a highlight for steam, but largely Spotify offers what consumers want in a way Netflix or Audible can't. They have everything you want and guide your discovery in even more, and as long as their encroaching enshittification doesn't undercut this service, they will continue to underpay artists and fund immoral activities.

    The developer of Ultrakill, Hakita, said something which I've often thought about. "You should support indies if you can, but culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it. ULTRAKILL wouldn't exist if I hadn't had easy access to movies, music and games growing up. If you don't have money, you can support via word of mouth". There are plenty of independent things I financially support, particularly things I attend in person in the city I live in. I may spend £100 per month paying for art and entertainment all said and done, and when that's spent, I will pirate everything else.

    I split a Spotify family plan between 6 friends, I think that's about £3.50 per month, and I pay for no other media services. With video, I run a jellyfin server with a "parent friendly" interface, so they can have "netflix with everything", which I have at my place too. I don't read that much any more, if it's physical I just go to the library and if it's an audiobook I'll just pirate it. The benefit here is that even if I'm on a reading binge, that's not even a book a week. With Spotify, I often pick something and play it via song radio, which is probably 50/50 music I know and new music. Sometimes I just stick albums on, but it's not like that's harder. If I had a locally hosted music repository that I'd "paid for", I could enjoy albums, but not as easily have a radio like discovery experience.

    One day, a pirate tool may appear that rivals Spotify, but until that day, I can't see myself moving away from it.

    Go to your local live music, drag shows, theatres, independent cinemas and libraries. Don't feel obligated to pay for any internet service.

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I think I'll be jumping ship soon .... like most people mention ... at one point you only listen to the same 100-200 tracks all the time anyway.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I cancelled my Spotify last night.

    Went through my favourites list and bought a bunch of tracks on bandcamp.

    Going back to my old ripped cds and mp3s is a nice feeling tbh.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I jumped ship about a year ago or whenever it was they signed on Joe Rogan. Now my policy is no subscriptions and only by DRM free. So mostly bandcamp and garage sale CDs for me. If there was a record shop within 70 miles I'd probably hit that up too but unfortunately not an option.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    You can download music via Newpipe if anyone is curious

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    im on yt music,

    it's now flooded with AI music, going to cancel

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Streaming is all the bad things about the music industry but made a thousand times worse. The pay outs, the requirement of specific laws surrounding streaming that make it different than every other method of music delivery, the lack of control by the consumer, the lack of any kind of ownership, the requirement of always online connectivity, and on.

    I don't want to be that boomer type person, but I'm pretty happy with staying with my CD and DVD collection that I have. I have a massive amount of portability, archiving, and it just works wherever I want to work. No fees, no internet required, and I have an immense amount of control over everything.

    This is just one of those things that I'm glad that I didn't get into this. It has sounded terrible since it was first pitched and I think it's only gotten worse.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Mp3s are at it. Because Spotty doesn't have some of the songs I actually like, and record companies even remove tracks that were previously available on physical media.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I finally made the jump to tidal this month, my subscription to Spotify is running out. I hate giving my money to Spotify. Yeah, tidal ain't perfect, yet. But I hope with more people joining, it's going to be better soon

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    And no one in their right mind thinks it is a death wish to actual people, but to everything horrible it embodies.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Where do I like... buy... music?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Is there another service that has anything comparable to Spotify's family plan? I have like 4 other people on the family plan I pay for and I really don't wanna fuck them over by switching lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Deezer? They still don't pay artists much, but I think it's still better than Spotify

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The Artist-Centric model sucks. The artists that benefits the most is the biggest artists like Drake etc. This system does create a two-tier royalty structure that favors bigger or more established artists with a loyal fanbase

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I moved to Qobuz. Meets my every need.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Bought myself a little digital audio player (basically the new name for mp3 players) and have been enjoying porting rockbox to it / listening to my local library.

    There's a still a few cd/record stores in town which is pretty awesome for second hand stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The Big problem I have now is. I have a Vinyl collection, and I enjoy listening to music (many different things) whenever I feel like it. The Spotify app itself is just so nice. Integrates well with my car, and I have a few huge playlists. Much of this music I bought already physically. But if I were to switch to a different app I feel like I need to change alot more, and in the example of Bandcamp i would have to pay a large sum to get my playlist back up.

    Also. I have gotten so used to it and so tired of trying to do the right thing. I just want to listen to some music ffs.

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