Oh my fucking god holy shit EU, you can have my dick picks, just shut the fuck up about Chat Control already. You don't have to pass any laws. I will email them to you. Just pipe the fuck down already.
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Any "secure system" with a deliberate backdoor (no matter who it's for) is not a secure system.
I always think of that scene from the simpsons where smithers and burns walk through 8 layers of security doors with various identification techniques, and then in the final room there's an old screen door hanging off its hinges to the outside.
I am deeply pissed that they just keep on attempting. This is costing millions, for nothing. The EU should introduce a forced wait period for declined topics, as this here is the abuse of the democratic system.
Agreed - This feels like "we will keep voting on this until we pass it"
Yeah, it feels like that because that's exactly what it is. It's a huge waste of time and money.
politicians to lobbyists: we just need a little more money to pass this
Years ago, had a guy in the young democrats club try to spin lobbying in a positive light, I just kept asking why TF we needed legalized bribery in politics.
Accept chat control?
- Yes
- Ask me again later
Do you want chat control?: Yes | Remind me in 3 days
Or just do what we are doing, but in reverse!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/citizen-petition-referendum-increase-9.7021761
They have mass surveillance systems, now they want mass identification systems, then they'll want mass ~~accountab~~ suppression systems and then the internet is dead as medium of free expression and we lose the use of the greatest communication technology human beings have ever created, to disagree with our rulers.
Okay, Europeans, when is someone gonna nut up and take these fascists out!?
- An American
We can't even take out our own fascists.....
And neither can they, apparently.
Said the American who can't take Trump out.
People are always trying to off the president. It's literally the most dangerous job in the U.S. That fuck is just really lucky and persists at not rolling a seven
They have been taken out over and over.
But democracy demands we let them try.
Stones and glass houses here a little bit mate
Pretty sure it's poking fun at all the Europeans who say the same thing on here to every American.
I think we are too far gone... If you can't do it with all the free weapons you have on hand, how do you think it's going to work in Europe? America and the rest of the world is equally screwed. Maybe some 3rd world countries will be fine as they have greater issues than "some" privacy concerns:)
Does the EU not have any sort of rule or directive against trying to vote the same thing 12345 times? Heck, IIRC even the US has that one.
They just keep renaming it and slightly changing it so it's never exactly the same.
Friggin' Theseus's Chat Control.
The same thing? I thinks so
But nothing stopping you to charge it a tiny bit and try again
If the US has such a rule then it's not effective. Look at how many times the GOP tried to kill the ACA (or at least pass pointless statements denouncing it). It was at least into the 50s. Probably more than that. Instead of trying to pass useful, practical laws, politicians played the same theatrics over and over again.
did they officially vote on it? Often they try to find their majority before the vote and if they dont get it, they wont vote on it.
At this point, I am ashamed of Denmark - one of the countries backing this idea (and if i am not misinformed the country who came up with it?). I have lived here for 30+ years and they do many things right, but recently the government has taken too many liberties and given itself way too much power to decide what people can do
This is also apparent on the opinion polls. The government (currently 3 more or less central parties) and especially the ruling party (theoretically left but sliding fast towards the center), have lost a lot of its backup from the public
I agree completely other than one important detail: while they sell themselves as center left, absolute center, and center right, the Danish government parties are in reality authoritarian right wing parties and have been for at least a decade and a half.
Especially when it comes to immigration policy and issues of state control/overreach like Chat Control.
They did come up with this particular iteration, but the whole idea is inherited from previous EU administrations. It has been a long time goal of the EU to implement something like this. Doesn't excuse the Danish premiership though, as they could just as easily have dropped it, especially after the recent rejection, instead of adamantly keep changing the proposition until something sticks.
Very on par for Mette Frederiksen and her government in Denmark as well: Arrogant and authoritarian, seemingly with no care for the increasingly bad polling of which something like this doesn't help.
There are reasons why I strongly support Mullvad. This is one of them.
As EU citizen is there any way I can fight this? I doubt contacting my country's representatives in the EU will help, considering the current political situation they can benefit more from this happening. Law enforcement is already known for abusing surveillance against political opponents, they are going to enjoy this.
Even if it is does not seem very promising, I think it is still important to point out to your representatives once again that their plans do not reflect the will of the people and that it is unacceptable to keep trying to push them through anyway.
As long as they continue to try, against all reason, to push this plan through without consulting the citizens, the population should express its rejection.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid there is not much else we can do other than inform our friends about this important issue and not let our representatives get away with it without protest.
Email templates and the addresses of representatives in all EU countries can be found here: Fight Chat Control
Educate your friends and relatives and write your representatives at every level. It’s only a small difference but it’s something.
Authoritarians will always try to capture more control under their bullshit hierarchy, this isn't a trade of liberties for societal safeties, it's trading privacy for oppression.
Wait... How is this a meme? It just seems like a PSA.
And if it is, why is it worthy of this community?
there isn't really anything stating that posts should be memes, the name is a bit misleading because it came from whitepeopletwitter, which people wanted to make more general. Any microblog post is theoretically allowed as long as it follows the rules in the sidebar. This arguably counts as brand promotion/guerilla marketing, although I think the message is divorced enough from the brand to be acceptable.
Any protest for this by our fellow Europeans?