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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 4 hours ago

from the youtube browser comments, "Ladybird is our last hope" seems to be the new standard promotional cut'n'paste phrase

last hope for what, you might ask? well the true anti-woke browser, which is much more important than actually, say, working.

presumably brave is too SJW for these guys, as well as basically working insofar as it's just a chrome reskin

they want the TRUE GLORIOVS FVTVRE that only a nonexistent thing that doesn't fucking work, and won't cos the lead bozo is vibe coding it, can offer.

in fashtech, promises of future glory always beat present day actually fucking working

[–] MOCVD@mander.xyz -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't there some mention of an AI kill switch for Firefox?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 7 hours ago

dunno, what does the article say?

[–] afporritt1001@lemmy.today 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Use LibreWolf or WaterFox and ironfox for android

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago

both of these depend on firefox for survival unfortunately, no real hardforks yet.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Just pick one - All Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf

Waterfox

Floorp

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

sadly, Floorp is going AI browser. I mean, "choice" to pick the bits of rat poop out browser.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 14 hours ago

This is a banger of a metaphor

[–] TrashGoblin@awful.systems 5 points 21 hours ago

Zen is AI free, at least so far.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I already said this but you're not making me use something called "Floorp" even if it's the last piece of software in the world. Just come on.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I used Floorp for a while. (The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child's nonsense-babble word for 10^100; nobody has a leg to stand on here.) It had a rare but persistent (and thus difficult to diagnose) problem of crashing my laptop hard when opening a private-mode window. Also, they're planning to incorporate AI on an "opt-in" basis instead of rejecting it on moral grounds.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 4 points 9 hours ago

I only use software named after words that aren’t made up. That is, I don’t use software. I post here by waving copper wire at telephone poles to bit bash my way through the tubes.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 8 points 23 hours ago

So thats a no on "Floorp" then. Good

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago

The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child’s nonsense-babble word for 10^100;

And how did that work out in the long term? There were warning signs!

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It always amuses me when people fall in love with the next “but they’re one of us!” tech companies. You can’t say shit about it without getting destroyed by fanbois, but when they turn out to not be one of us, you’d damn well better keep your “I told you so!” to yourself- because they never let you tell them to begin with.

[–] self@awful.systems 46 points 1 day ago (11 children)

if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

[–] self@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

important addendum: your reason for advocating for shit browsers owned by terrible people will be read out loud in the clown voice it deserves

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Lemmy needs a feature where we can click a button on a comment and make everyone see that comment in Comic Sans.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 8 hours ago

so I’m not saying I’m writing this down for the Lemmy clone’s features list, but

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago

coming in rizz i'm sure

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 21 points 1 day ago

On the subject of Brave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ it really has a little bit to many controversies. (And the list is downplaying some of it, the wikipedia clone added wasn't just some random one, it is was the one created by the alt right, neo-nazi Vox Day. Addition of which by the CEO should be enough to not want to use the browser at all).

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