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It's something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they've made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn't seem true to me, or I think they're genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn't being considered.

What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?

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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

Anti-Flag.

Absolutely sucks who Justin Sane turned out to be, but the music the group made together are still absolute bangers.

[–] artifactsofchina@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It always gets me that Matthew Broderick killed two people in a car crash and got off with a $100 fine. I love Ferris Bueller's day off, and I think he's really talented, but like this happened just after that movie, and he just did not seem to be held to account for it.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Neil Gaiman. I'm afraid there won't be a third season of Good Omens.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

sandman was suppose to go on longer too, eventhough the comics was short. s2 seemed rushed.

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[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (7 children)

This is going to get buried, but I miss Bill Cosby, or rather my mental model of him before all that nastiness came out.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Cosby Show is still a good classic show with a lot of humor and heart. It is tainted now though. Really creepy in retrospect that Cosby plays a doctor with exclusively female patients he sees in the basement

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

what ? lmao

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[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Louis CK. He was my favorite comedian, but the first special after 'cancellation' had all the hallmarks of a washed up has been with grievances. But he's been back to his old form lately, and I still consider him the best comic of his generation.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 day ago

Agreed. It's like, we know he can do better but he just dumps out two or three very underwhelming specials. Like, is that how you want to bounce back from all that has happened with you? Just makes you look weaker. I took the opportunity to find different comics and listen to comics I ignored for years than just his.

[–] umbrellacloud@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

Louis CK is really funny, I haven't seen his new stuff. I thought Chappelle was funny, but he's not funny anymore. It's not because he's transphobic or homophobic now or whatever, I'm against those things, but a skilled comedian can make me involuntarily laugh at those kinds of jokes. It's because he's been replaced by a slightly fatter and unfunny clone. I don't think he came back from hiatus and he's still in Africa, this slightly fatter dude was made by Viacom I'm convinced. This dude is fatter, taller, and has a different skin tone, maybe that's just from staying inside and eating dorritos or whatever he does, but he's a different person at least metaphorically.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

was a coordinated hit job. What he did was immature but in no way sexual assault, but they knew that releasing it at the height of the Me Too movement would cause the purity-obsessed left to chase him out of office.

There is a line, I don’t have to love and agree with them on everything to enjoy an actor, but I refuse to support predators. Things like David Harbor cheating on his wife or the things people slammed Paul Reubens for I could really care less about, and I don’t give a fuck about their politics so long as they aren’t doing shit like J.K. Rowling and actively trying to ruin lives, however people like Diddy, Gaiman (whom I had personally loved for years), or Jared Leto can fuck off and die.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

Neil Gaiman. I'm extremely depressed that he's actually a POS, and because I loved his work so much, I'm conflicted. His work itself seemed to have well interrogated values woven into it's fiber, but I guess you never can tell.

Edit: really fucking bummed about Red Hot Chili Peppers too

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Same with his ex? Wife Amanda Palmer. I love the Dresden Dolls and she's been very inspirational but knowing she was in on it was fucked up.

[–] UsefulIdiot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

This broke my damn heart. His work seemed to have the values I hold dear and be so insightful and then… he’s getting in the bath with girls who depend on him for housing.

I am thinking that power corrupts. I came up with that but you can use that phrase if you want.

[–] yyyesss@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

man, this was the worst. but he's not getting another dollar from me, the bastard. at least he's not fighting Terry Pratchett's estate over Good Omens.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/terry-pratchett-estate-removes-neil-gaiman-from-good-omens-kickstarter/

speaking of which, Terry seems to have been just a great guy and was better than Neil anyway. It's really helped me to let Neil go.

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

It's a struggle sometimes, but I think it's the only real control we have.

It's a case by case basis for me. Some actor being in a movie I like isn't a big deal to me, but when someone has like huge creative control over something it's like a visceral repulsion to me. I don't want to take a piece of media into my experience with the subtext that the author touches kids or something. It's not even just that I know these people do bad things, it's that personal views shape how people make stories etc, and I'm not fond of putting that into my psyche. If they do some fucked up shit in the book, I want to be able to know it's because this character is evil, not because the author is saying this is a normal healthy thing to do.

RHCP sucks because I think it's pretty good music, and I was really into them when I was a teen, but given everything I know about them now it makes it impossible to enjoy their stuff now.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 69 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I mean, I didn't throw out my Harry Potter boxed set just becsuse Rowling is a dumb fucking TERF. I just don't continue buying shit she profits off of, and can see tons of questionable things in her work that I didn't question before knowing her thoughts on things.

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[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert. I have several of his print books and still enjoy reading them; ditto his old cartoons. They really spoke to me years ago, as a cubicle-coder.

[–] yyyesss@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

hey, read the books you already own all you want. that doesn't put anymore money in his pocket.

being "cancelled" doesn't mean we stick our fingers in our ears and act like it didn't happen. it just means being conscientious about funding the lives of people who are actively making the world a worse place.

this is a critical detail that I think people often miss

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

Both of the Linuses

Sebastian and Torvalds

Sebastian because most of the shit he's been accused of has either been fixed openly, or was proven mostly false.

Torvalds because while he can be extremely rude, he generally only does it when the person deserves to be called out. It's not like he's going off at random people. Society says he should use more tact, but the dude is literally responsible for creating and now maintaining arguably the most important piece of the server software stack globally. There's also a very high chance he's on the spectrum.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I like the world building in Fifth Element and Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. But Luc Besson is probably a rapist and certainly a sexual assaulter. I'll watch his old stuff I already own but won't put any more money towards it nor support any new projects.

Edit: oh, also he's not "cancelled". He came out with another movie this year or last, if I recall. 9 times our of 10, celebrities that say they were "cancelled" just had their feefees hurt by people on social media.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Also a pedo. From his wiki page:

Besson's second wife was actress and director Maïwenn Le Besco, whom he started dating when he was 32 and she was 15 after having met three years earlier.[46] They married in late 1992 when Le Besco, 16, was pregnant with their daughter Shanna, who was born on 3 January 1993.[47][deprecated source] Le Besco later claimed that their relationship inspired Besson's film Léon (1994), where the plot involved the emotional relationship between an adult man and a 12-year-old girl (played by then 12-year-old Natalie Portman).

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

it will be hard pressed for me to enjoy something if the artist/actor got cancelled.

asian ytubers i used to enjoy, i think thier content is funny, but after they became covid denying, magaty, women hating(whole drama that started all this), they were dropped like a rock by most of thier fans, only the aprasocial groupies, and incels are left, the last time i visited the sub.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 53 points 4 days ago (19 children)

michael jackson made incredible music. i don't even know how much of the stuff about him is true but it does feel weird listening to his stuff now, even though it's extremely well made.

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