It is not limited to California, I assure you.
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Last week I was walking down the street with my kids, and some loose dog comes running at my youngest. I'm holding both kids' hands, so I kicked at the dog to keep it away without actually hitting the dog.
All of a sudden, its absentee owner comes out of the woodwork to threaten "if you kick my dog I'll kick you!" I just hung on to my kids and kept on walking. I would rather get kicked than let his dog do whatever it was going to do to my kid. I'm not going to stop and get in a fight with this idiot, but it was simply astounding that he expected random people on the street to care more about his dog than he does.
I love dogs but fully support you on this one.
No you're right. You don't know that dog's temperment. Your kids are more important than a loose dog.
You made the right call. That person was definitely a dangerous idiot.
If you think that bad dog owner entitlement is an exclusively Californian issue then I regret to inform you that I have terrible news about the rest of the country.
Op, did your leg get humped by a dog in a store?
I worked a retail gig in the Bay Area. I was the only one who tried to enforce the no-dog policy. That was 20 years ago. I wouldn't bother now.
I'm not a dog person, even the one dog I did have in my household is a shiba inu, which is way more cat-like than anything. I don't have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they're well behaved...
BUT
Don't take your dog to a venue or bar with loud live music. Just because you're comfortable with loud music doesn't mean your dog is. I imagine it's pretty hard on their much more sensitive hearing and our vet confirmed this to me.
Thats my 2¢
Tbh I love it when customers bring their dogs to my work (as long as the dog is friendly).
Give some something cute to look at and pet during an otherwise bland day
Work dogs are the best part of my day
I love dogs. I love looking at them. I love playing with them. Dogs are the best.
But don't fucking bring your dog...
People are scared of dogs. People are allergic to dogs.
I know you love your dog, I probably love your dog too but I don't think I should bring my dog anywhere indoors and/or crowded and neither should you.
Obviously!!!! If your dog is a service dog, I am not talking about you and your dog. You just make me sad because I can't play with your dog :( even tho they are such a good boy/girl...
You can ask people with service dogs if it's ok to pet and most times they are fine with that, the issue is with people running up and petting the dog without asking. Service dogs are very well behaved and usually love a good head pat
Then it's likely not a service dog, but an emotional support animal. There is a MASSIVE difference, and people treat them like they are the same.
Eta: so I may not be entirely right. In my experience, I was always told if they're dressed for service they shouldn't be touched by anyone else.
No I have known a lot of people with service dogs, not emotional support dogs. You ask for permission because some dogs must not be interrupted during their work, if you ask and they say it's fine then it's fine. The thing is that you have to be prepared for them to say no and be able to accept that
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Animals don't belong in places that sell food. Animals don't belong in office supply stores. Animals don't belong in post offices. Animals don't belong in any business other than a vet's office or pet supply store that specifically allows them.
If you can't train your animal to be home alone long enough for you to run some errands, then you shouldn't own a pet.
Animals make your food. Shocking I know. At least they wash their hands. All my service dog does is lay under the table, and bother me if she needs to alert.
What about service dogs?
Those should be an exception, obviously. But in CA we have a big problem with service animal fraud. It's bad for people with disabilities because
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the ones who actually need animals get undue criticism, and
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people with severe dog allergies have elevated exposure.
I think a good solution would be if the service harnesses had a QR code that linked to a state govt website with the animal's picture.
I've never heard of service dog fraud tbh that's silly
There are some stores, like Home Depot, Home Goods, and Michael's (in the US), that are historically pet friendly. Leashed and good manners only of course, but it's great for socializing a pet and making an employee's day with cute puppies to break up the retail monotony.
A store that explicitly states service animals only, or has no sign, is not appropriate.
These policies work out for the business as well, especially when the store shares a plaza with a pet supply place.
People bringing their dogs to store A might see store B and want to shop there, too. If store B bans pets, that means people either have to bring their dogs home and come back (which is a pain, and people might not return at all), or leave the dogs in their car (which is dangerous or even illegal.) Smart business people don't want people leaving without shopping, and people with any sense of decency don't want dogs left in cars.
So when store B explicitly permits people to bring their pets, people can go straight there from Store A without worry. Customers are happy, dogs are happy, business people are happy, and no pets have to suffer in a locked vehicle.
Only the allergics and phobics aren't, but who cares... /s
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This is so stupid. Grow up.
If you don't want your leg humped, then stop dressing so provocatively.
This is an all states thing not just CA. Your dog does not belong at the grocery store
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they're still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven't been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there's no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it's lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
The stress test is dropping a book on the floor.
Yep. Service animals, drug-snuffing dogs, etc are usually just crowded into a room where a book is dropped. Then they're good to go!
There is training of course. But that is the stress part.
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Amazon has faux emotional support certs. Harnesses, and badges. Do with that information as you will.
ESAs complicate the whole thing
Not really. I actually like this meme because it specifies the dog is misbehaving. There is no protection for a misbehaving dog.
The only problem I've had with other dog owners in California or anywhere else, is owners who don't pick up their dog's shit. I see people bring dogs into stores all the time, they're always fine, I never see problems with that.
Now when I step 6-inches off a popular trail to take a picture of a popular view and step in piles of dog feces that people don't bother to clean because it's technically not someone's yard, that's when I start to wonder if domestication was a good idea. (Of humans that is.)
Should come to Texas where they'll bring in dogs to the grocery store and they act like it's everyone's fault but their own when someone gets upset at dogshit in the aisle.
I am glad the grocery store across the street is adamant about no animals allowed, unless they are genuinely needed for service (like a seeing eye dog, not an emotional support animal). And I am a dog owner. The only store I would ever even considered bringing them into, is the pet store where it's generally okay to bring them (especially since they do grooming and vaxx services).
Hate going to Walmart and seeing actual shit on the floor because some Karen wanted to bring her fucking designer Chihuahua into the store and doesn't clean up after it.
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