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[–] 190 points 8 months ago (18 children)

They tried warning us about fb over 10 years ago and nothing happened

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  • [–] 46 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I wouldn't say nothing happened. Young people migrated off of it and it's now the lead gasoline of the social media world

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  • [–] 74 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah but young people didn’t migrate off it because it was harmful

    They migrated in part to instagram which Facebook bought and made even more harmful than Facebook itself

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah ig is the worst part of Facebook, just people curating what they want people to think their life looks like

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    This is in stark contrast to... Facebook???

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    facebook has a very different target audience

    facebook is mostly about 60+ year olds holding their beer and saying sth like "beer, car, church is all we need" while instagram is predatory on 16-y.o girls telling them that they're not pretty and worthy of love if they're not significantly (scarily, in fact) underweight and wear lots of makeup to cover their true emotions/face.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    back then it wasn't about political independence from the US.

    the EU has made a lot of noise in the last 2 weeks about getting off of US platforms. Here's a few examples:

    https://apnews.com/article/europe-digital-sovereignty-big-tech-9f5388b68a0648514cebc8d92f682060

    https://ecfr.eu/publication/get-over-your-x-a-european-plan-to-escape-american-technology/

    There's many more. The movement is significant.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Then literally Web 2.0 is the problem. All social media stops existing if we go back from Web 2.0.

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    [–] 96 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Children are not the only ones being harmed here. This selective focus is only going to destroy the perception of other groups in terms of harm. Teenagers, young people, old people are also being harmed here - it is by design, and its everyone.

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  • [–] 58 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Oh look, another company that knows it's harming people and society, hides it and keeps on chasing profit and power.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Just remember tick tock is illegal for citizens to use in the country that invented it.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah that's because they have a state sanctioned version of TikTok that is controlled by an algorithm that police's peoples speech and what they do and reports anything untoward to the proper authorities.

    And now that Fox News has bought TikTok, the US has their own version of an algorithm that will police people's speech and what they do, and most likely report anything untoward to the proper authorities.

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    [–] 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The exact same thing happened with Instagram years ago.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not only tiktok. My parents are addicted to facebook stories and YouTube stories ;)

    The same algorithm…

    What is more there a lot of Russian propaganda and misinformation. But in Poland that’s common in social media

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    [–] 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    It's harmful to everyone not just children, and so is Instagram. This sounds like more mandatory ID propaganda given how the government won't stop the most obvious of pedophile sex traffickers.

    Edit: It literally is:

    Of course, if TikTok is removed, many children will just move to TikTok’s competitors: Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts. This is why it’s so important for countries to follow Australia’s lead: raise the age for opening social media accounts to 16 and require the companies to enforce it.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus, happy tree friends fucked me up and I was legally an adult

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    It's Ok now though cause TikTok was bought by Fox News.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (98 children)

    I'm looking forward to the day when social media is heavily regulated and age-gated.

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  • [–] 100 points 8 months ago (56 children)

    Or parents can do their job. We have to suffer with age verification bullshit laws that's just there to have us all in a database.

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    Not having it be regulated makes it a lot harder for parents to do their job, because the kids with responsible parents are getting peer-pressured by the kids with irresponsible parents.

    Or put another way: you're not making parents do their jobs; you're making their jobs impossible by forcing them to choose between ruining their kid's mental health by letting her be exposed to social media, or ruin her mental health by forcing her to be ostracised for not using social media.

    The only way to have a successful outcome is to force everyone else's kids not to use it, not just your own, and no amount of rugged individualist good parenting can accomplish that by itself!

    That said, I am extremely sympathetic to the arguments against age verification laws too, which is why my preferred solution would be to fucking outlaw and destroy corporate social media entirely, for kids and adults alike!

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You are exactly right. We're all in this ugly, trapped situation, together, like it or not.

    As a parent, do you remove the obviously ruinous toxins from the kiddo's environment, entirely? Seems like the only sensible choice.

    But then again...for the kid, few things could feel worse. An entire childhood spent alienated from their peers? Permanently out of the loop, to where that becomes the personality trait noticed and remembered by others?

    What a horrible bargain, I completely hate it.

    "Well, a little hideous poison for you, routinely, I guess, dear. I wouldn't want you to end up weird, after all..."

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Oh won't someone think of the parents though?! How can they be expected to parent their own children, oh the humanity

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago*

    best thing on that front is same fix for most of the working classes problems...

    -more pay

    -shift to 6hr/4d work week

    -actually invest in education

    most people are good, amd would probably love to spend more time with their family, but in the US especially they're overworked and underpaid, one accident away destitution

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Age gated? You'd submit your driver's license or identity to these sites?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    It's already started, for porn. The kids don't have to prove their age, they don't have proper ID. So EVERYONE ELSE has to prove THEIR ages, and if you can't, you are assumed to be underage.

    See how well that works for the Nazis? Now they get to identify EVERYBODY who is on the Internet with their legal IDs, and they will know exactly who posted that nasty meme of Trump.

    But it's okay, because it protects the children.

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    [–] 13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    If I ever have children, TikTok will be one of the first things I'll have blocked for them.

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    [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Damn... money laundering though LIVE with its "gifts" I never thought about this. Everything else is wrong, at scale, but this surprised me.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah ofc. It's run by genocidal fascists now. Libs wanted this.

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