Just two weeks til' Halloween now.

Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] 7 points 3 days ago (13 children)

saw this on the other sneerclub

roon endorses millenarianism as a positive and constructive belief system

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Damn, I didn't expect to run into something that would cause me to reflect so heavily on my own personal journey. I'm someone who has long struggled with suicidal ideation, and there have been points in the past where I set my own death date at a point in the future; Most notably, when I was a severely depressed teenager in an emotionally unsafe household, I told myself that I would allow myself to die at age 20, if nothing had improved by the time I was 20 — and fuck anyone who would begrudge me that.

    Ironically, planning my suicide saved my life, because it gave me something concrete to work towards, a future respite to latch onto during my most challenging days. The screenshot you shared made me realise that this was sort of a sollipsistic millenarianism, giving me a sense of structure and direction in a world where I'd have otherwise been too overwhelmed to do anything.

    I'm doing much better now than I was then, quite a few years on from that deadline I set for myself. However, I still sometimes have those low points where planning to die feels more accessible than planning a tolerable life. I think it'd be useful to thoroughly reflect on this tendency through the lens of millenarianism.

    This is all to say thanks, I guess? For introducing me to a new concept that will be useful in this way

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    I'm no longer suicidal, but the knowledge that some day I'm going to die and be free of all this misery is pretty much the only thing that keeps me going. been true my whole life. i can understand millenarianism being motivated by that, or seeing that as a form of millenarianism.

    but i don't think roon understands the sort of motivation we're talking about at all. to him millenarianism is a principle for motivating individuals to reorder society or themselves. that's quite a different thing than the preserving and protective mechanism you're talking about

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    i like roon. he’s so straightforwardly stupid. it’s refreshing!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Some of these people have so thoroughly blended their brains into a post-ironic slurry that I can't be sure they even really know what they believe anymore. roon seems like a good example of this, every time he comes up lately.

    I haven't checked in on Naval Ravikant in a couple years, has he just handed his feed over to a chatbot at this point?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    (edit: Isn't he like a vice assistant (to the) chief executive of something or other in anthropic? apparently not) There's just no telling how many of the roons of the world are going to become billionaires from this IPO, what a terrible state of affairs.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I suppose this could make sense if you think about people worried about climate/ecosystem collapse, and the nuclear standoff before that, and maybe the rise of totalitarianism and mechanized warfare before that...

    But that ignores the vast host of batshit doomsday prophets that were around long before and all throughout that part of history.

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  • Also in that context it seems like millenarianism is specifically bad at actually doing anything about the harms it's worried about. Whether you want to curb fossil fuel usage or just get sinners to repent before it's too late, doomsday prophecy is actively bad at motivating anyone other than the prophet themselves.

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