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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Israel has forfeited their right to exist.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Morally, being just another Western genocidal settler project, it never had any "right to exist" (whatever that means for ideas and projects). 😞

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was fine with Jews needing a homeland where they could posse up and protect themselves, but that shit got out of control decade over decade. It's like they're implementing some sort of final solution or something.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 point 14 hours ago*

They had a homeland when Israel was formed. They'd had it since 1934, The Jewish Autonomous Oblast (JAO) in Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Zionists just didnt like it because even though it is resource rich and nearly completely uninhabitted, it wasnt developed. They much preferred the thought of invading the already inhabitted holy land of their dusty old storybooks. They didnt "need" it and it wasnt "necessary", nor was it theirs just because they had a small, very short lived state there 3000 years ago. The formation of Israel was always simple greed. Nothing more or less.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They have a homeland, it's called Poland/Ukraine/Germany/France... I understand that the white man will go full Hitler even with their own but that's their problem, and certainly not something that should be paid with (actual) Semite blood.

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

And if those aren't good enough, NYC is the true Zion of the modern and civilized world. Come one, come all, and live in peace and equality with your non-Jewish, non-white neighbors.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Fantastic idea! Many already have American passports too. I'm ready for the renaissance of American Jewish humour, they've always been a funny bunch. "So what's the deal with bodegas anyway?!"

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[–] TRAHR@quokk.au 18 points 1 day ago

Israel shouldn’t be saved even if it was in range of saving. Colonialism has no place in this age.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Like Apartheid South Africa before it, the current system is.

A secular nation not based on discrimination and a total lack of restraint when it comes to enforcement of said discrimination, though, IS possible as long as we start treating them like we treated Apartheid South Africa in the 90s.

My mom and most of my friends' parents refused to buy gas at Shell stations during the final decade or so and for several years after that because they kept doing business with SA after the rest of the world boycotted them. That wasn't a radical position, that was the NORM here in the 90s.

I'm not saying that it's gonna be quick or easy, but the world HAS to go back to encouraging such behavior towards Apartheid ethnostates rather than outlawing it, or we might not be worth saving after all..