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Canada, France, Italy and Greece allow Netanyahu’s overflight despite ICC warrant (www.middleeasteye.net)
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew over Greece, Italy, France and Canada on Thursday on his way to address the UN, despite an International Criminal Court warrant for his arrest.

The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu in November 2024, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity allegedly committed in Gaza since October 2023.

Netanyahu arrived in the US for a short visit to address the UN General Assembly in New York, where Mayor Zohran Mamdani has said he does not have the authority to arrest the Israeli leader.

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[+] -22 points 1 week ago (37 children)

So basic that you can't even answer how that would be achieved

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

    It goes like this:

    Plane carrying a person accused of crimes against humanity: "Air traffic control ICC this is airplane ABC-123 requesting permission to enter airspace DEF heading 123"

    A country that is a signatory to the ICC and obligated to act on an international arrest warrant for persons wanted to stand trial for crimes against humanity if they enter their territory: "Permission denied, if you eneter this airspace you will be escorted to military base HIJ where you will be detained and escorted to the ICC to stand trail for crimes against humanity."

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    And then they call your bluff and fly through anyway.

    Then what? You shoot down the prime minister of Israel? You single handedly end NATO, make your nation a pariah, cause a rapid expansion of war in the Middle East, plunge the global market into a depression, and run the risk of causing a world war?

    Yeah there’s a reason why none of these countries did anything. The ICC is a joke and always has been. It has zero actual authority and it’s only purpose has always been to maintain western dominance in the world.

    That’s it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago

    Then you do exactly what you saif you would do. You 'escort' the plane with miltary planes, that have a progressive level of escalation which if taken to the most extreme could be getting shot down.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    So you think that these countries would let Putin fly through their airspace?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Absolutely. They’re not going to shoot down and kill a leader of a nuclear power. You’re absolutely insane if you think that’s the encase.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Which is why Putin flies over them whenever he likes, right?

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 week ago (27 children)

    Planes demand access to airspace before entering it. Open a search engine if you want to find out more.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 week ago (26 children)

    Open a search engine if you want to find out more.

    So arrogant

    I'm well aware of that, but what do you actually expect to happen when that gets ignored? Threaten a plane carrying the leader of a nuclear power? That'll go well.

    I'd also love to see him in handcuffs but escalation is obviously unproductive when he can't be safely arrested and planes requesting permission is only a courtesy when there are no consequences to defiance.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (22 children)

    Do you really think Israel would nuke France if they grounded his plane?

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  • [+] -9 points 1 week ago (21 children)

    I don't think they'd immediately press the red button, but they clearly have a capacity to escalate and have shown in the middle east that they're quite trigger happy

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago* (20 children)

    Israel would literally cease to exist if it got in a war with France. Israel isn't going to war with fucking NATO

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  • [+] -8 points 1 week ago (19 children)

    France shooting down Netanyahu would be the end of NATO immediately. There would be no war with NATO because NATO wouldn’t exist anymore.

    A European nation assassinating Netanyahu would immediately plunge the entire Middle East into massive war, destroy the global market, and likely draw the US into war in Europe.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    It's not an "assassination", dumbass.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    It literally is an assassination.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    It literally isn't, dumbass.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Not sure what else you would call killing the prime minister of a nation that you’re not at war with.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Legally enforcing your airspace is not an assassination and you know it, stop being deliberately obtuse.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Shooting down a civilian aircraft with a work leader on it would absolutely be an assassination.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    No it wouldn't, and you know it

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Yes it absolutely would lmao. No European country is at war with Israel. Every European country recognizes Israel as a sovereign nation.

    It would be an assassination and an act of war.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Every European country recognizes Israel as a sovereign nation.

    I'm genuinely curious what you think the relevance of this is.

    Given that you're so stupid you think a country enforcing their air space is both assassination and an act of war, I'm assuming your answer is going to be more nonsense though

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    What’s the relevance of one nation killing the leader of another nation that they internationally recognize as a sovereign nation?

    Shooting down an aircraft is far beyond standard airspace enforcement. Standard airspace enforcement would be to send fighter jets to escort the violating aircraft out of the airspace without conflict.

    Shooting down an aircraft would absolutely be an act of war.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Shooting down an aircraft is far beyond standard airspace enforcement. Standard airspace enforcement would be to send fighter jets to escort the violating aircraft out of the airspace without conflict.

    Which you've already said they can't do because the plane could just ignore them. What do you think is the next step when a violating plane ignores the fighters?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You think the population of the US would want to go to war with France over the leader of a genocidal pariah state being downed legally?

    What's the support for the war with Iran again?

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  • [+] -7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    And just like your second example, public support wouldn’t matter in the slightest. We’re literally at war with Iran right now with basically nobody supporting it.

    But France would have no allies even in Europe if they assassinated a Western leader like Netanyahu. They’d be a global pariah for plunging the world into a depression that would make the Great Depression look like child’s play.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    I dunno if you've been paying attention, but that's already happening because America is doing what Israel wants. If anyone stepped up to stop America or Israel in the slightest, we would avoid catastrophic depression.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    How did we go from the mandated air denial by international law to shooting down an aircraft?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    What’s your proposed response when said aircraft doesn’t follow your air denial and enters your airspace anyway?

    There’s only two options. You either send fighters up and follow them until they leave, or you enforce said denial and shoot the aircraft down.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I’d also love to see him in handcuffs

    But you've already decided that no country should be expected to actually arrest him

    he can’t be safely arrested

    What does "safely arrested" fucking mean? You've already declared that no country can use force against him, so he can just say "no" if any country tried to arrest him. He could literally hike through these countries and, according to you, there's nothing they can do about it.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    But you've already decided that no country should be expected to actually arrest him

    You've already declared that no country can use force against him

    I literally never said either of those things and don't agree with them either. But whatever, I'm not gonna continue to argue if you're just going to make shit up.

    Enjoy your echo chamber, buddy (apt username btw)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago*

    I literally never said either of those things and don’t agree with them either.

    Yes you did, repeatedly. Lying dipshit

    Enjoy your echo chamber, buddy (apt username btw)

    Go back to reddit you insufferable fucking loser

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