Not to mention the clear financial aspect

In the US you can't even buy vegetables right now without worrying about getting explosive diarrhea. Just the thing you want for your children.

Do you have any idea how much you have to abuse a living being for it to consciously not want to have kids?

And we achieved this level of abuse on humans! And we did it very well, in reproducible way, with reproducible results across multiple countries! We should make a research paper about it.

I was looking at the costs of raising a child the other day and I don't know how anyone does it. My job pays garbage with trash health insurance.

I'm just so mad at the management class with their high pay and not doing any actual work. My boss seems fine - I think he knows this is bullshit and goes a little out of his way to make it easier for me. But everyone above him? If I saw them drowning I'd have to think a long time before throwing a life vest.

Generally agree, but where did the air quality decrease compared to some decades back?

(80s kid here, so maybe my brain is to slow to realize it, because of the remains still in my bloodstreams of the lead fumes and unfiltered coal power plant exhausts I inhaled back then...)

So, let's say you have a system where people go to work, do their job, and get paid. The employer wants more productivity, so the work becomes more stressful ("a full workload"). The worker does more for less, the company celebrates.

There is a hidden element here: stress. Your workers will be more productive, however their baseline stress levels will rise over time. It's cumulative and takes years to show; but it means everyone above a certain age who works a well paying job has a high stress burden. A lot of people live without any job security.

Stressed organisms do not reproduce.

But imagine if your kid would be so special they could invent solution to all these problems!

/s

There are a whole lot more reasons to NOT have kids imo.

I was educated not to leave trash around when I visited nature.

all true, but...

we enjoy our free time, hobbies, and traveling the world? want more of that not zero.

I just don't want kids. Knew I never wanted to be a parent ever since I was a kid having to help my parents raise my nephews and niece. I could be a billionaire and every problem on Earth could be solved, I still wouldn't have kids.

This, + my health is awful (so I'm not going to subject another being to a rerun of my suffering), and 💕 boys 💕

More propaganda so it's easier to strip women of their autonomy and access to contraception.

It's not a crisis that the birth rate is falling.

because my life is ruined shitheap of misery and i dont have the emotional capacity to deal with kids, the financial capacity to afford kids, and my genetics are a ticking timebomb that i really wouldnt want to inflict on kids the way it was inflicted on me.

and lets not even get into the world itself and how its a festering cesspit on teetering on the edge of fascistic ruin because an elite group of corrupt billionaires don't want to ever give up their dragon hordes, or their ability to fuck infants and toddlers.

Implying the politicians in the government are capable of feeling shame?

I was raised in a very dysfunctional household. I broke free, met an amazing partner, and we both wanted children. I finally have the opportunity to be a kid again with them, provide them the childhood I never had and be apart of it, by having the childhood I never had. My kids are 9 & 11… and we are slowly having to pull back on fun active activities outdoors during the summer months because the environment is getting worse and worse year over year…

I broke the cycle, but their childhood is slowly being robbed of them.

Record rain in my area to where water drainage infrastructure is being destroyed bit by bit every fucking night. Massive tornado inducing storms where we normally don’t see them (a freak event killed a bunch of people and destroyed nearly a billion dollars in property back in the 80s, nothing since and nothing before). Record amount of tornados in my Province, humid as fuck when I live in the prairies. Smokey unbeatable air because of the one area not getting rain burning down.

I want off this ride.

This is fine

Idk how you'd draw lower wages and less fulfilling jobs, but that too.

The short answer is: I don't want to.

The longer answer is: I really, seriously, don't want to.

maybe pay us more