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[–] 50 points 1 month ago (1 child)

I like it when the subtitles out a character yer not supposed to see or know about yet:

DAVE: [Breathing heavily] 🤣

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    The audience is not supposed to know what's being said.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I've definitely seen movies where common Spanish words or phrases that an anglophone audience would be expected to understand are transcribed as simply "[speaking Spanish]"

    e.g. "that hombre is loco" becomes "that [speaking Spanish] is [speaking Spanish]"

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Second this! I very often encounter phrases in foreign languages I understand when I turn up the volume, but the subtitles person has been too lazy to write out or translate.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I noticed this in Meet The Robinsons. A guy says "Madames and monsuiers" and the subtitle says "speaking french" as if the average English speaker doesn't know what those words mean

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago

    I really wish the subtitles said [ intentionally not translated]. I never know if the subtitles are just broken, if I'm actually using half-assed closed captioning, or if it's the director's intent.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Then it shouldn't be said.

    Least they could do is to add the Japanese words to the subtitles for those who can understand Japanese but are hard of hearing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    That is done for other types of subtitle track, but for the main or forced subtitles, the intent of the programme maker is paramount.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I don't see how representing foreign dialogue with foreign text subverts the author's intent. sure, they may not intend for their general audience to understand, but they still won't. and they must have known, and maybe even intended, that a certain part of the audience would understand, and if the foreign text were shown, they could

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    The audience is not supposed to know what’s being said.

    Well, translating from languages that are more relaxed regarding swear words might have an impact on the PG rating in the US, so you might be right, but for the wrong reasons :-)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    This is unfair to bilingual deaf people.

    For example, there's an episode of Bluey with a lot of French. I'm really bad at French but I do know a little of it. I am able to understand some of the dialogue.

    Why should a deaf person not have the same right as me to interpret dialogue in a language they happen to understand or understand bits of?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's the director's intention that the audience not understand what is being said, probably to align with the main character in the situation. It's no less fair to bilingual deaf people than it is to anyone else who can't understand whatever language is being spoken.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Like I said, people who happen to know the language can understand it and so should have the same chance to understand with subtitles. If the director's intention was nobody understand it, they shouldn't have them speak in a language people may be able to understand

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    How is it unfair to them if it's not putting them at a disadvantage compared to the average person?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    It is putting them at a disadvantage. I can hear characters speaking french and pick up at least some of what they're saying. A deaf person who knows some French should have the same opportunity as me to see the French words and interpret some of what is being said. I'm not saying have the subtitles in English, I'm saying have them in the language being spoken on screen so they're getting the experience intended

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    My favourite is when the show did have translation but its overruled by the optional subtitles.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Wife and I watched Conclave a few years ago in cinema. There were no subtitles at all, even for the extensive and important parts were everybody spoke Italian

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Wait, they are making a third season? I thought it ended at season 2.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    It's even more annoying when the subtitles say "speaking xyz", while obscuring the writing underneath baked into the video image that shows the actual translation.
    Had that several times already...
    (as a non-native English speaker I often have the subtitles on, because *mumble-mumble-scottish-accent*...)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I know that’s a “Squid Game” card but is that a still from “Alice in Borderland”?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I hate this so much but i guess they do it because the director doesn’t want you to know what is being said?

    This would be a good use of AI, a universal real time close captioning regardless of language. Although if you had the movie at home maybe you could create a tool to create the CC before hand? My random thoughts…

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