Donald Trump's bruising return to the White House has sent many longtime foreign allies scrambling to get their distance, and according to a new piece from The Atlantic, that distance will last long after Trump is gone.

Trump's second term as president has been marked by notable and widespread disrespect toward nations once seen as close U.S. allies. Between his attempts to level massive tariffs against nearly every nation in the world and his frequent breaches of diplomatic norms, Trump has created a hostile global environment in which allies no longer feel safe trusting in the stability of the U.S.

In a new piece for The Atlantic on Tuesday, staff writer Vivian Salama argued that this new dynamic, in which the nations of the world are working to establish a safe distance from the U.S., is bound to become the new normal for years to come, even after Trump leaves office and is potentially replaced by a more traditional, dependable administration.

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[–] 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Because it's not trump.

The whole damned US framework facilitated this little shitheel. And its shown you are not to be trusted, and unfit to operate on an international stage

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    That's the thing. I hear Americans saying to not blame them, this is all Trump.

    Not so fast. The entire US government is failing from the middle out. Sure, Trump is an idiot manchild, but the entire US government is supporting him. The GOP fights dirty and don't care about laws while the democrats completely stopped playing the game and sit on their hands. The citizens elected Trump twice, almost three times, and keep electing the other people around him supporting his insanity or unwilling to fight it.

    The majority of US citizens wanted this to happen or allowed it to happen.

    Generations of propaganda and lies, the dumbing down of the population combined with arrogance and hubris have accelerated the downfall of an empire whose only current goal is to extract all the wealth from the population.

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  • American laws are massively outdated and newer laws since 1970 are written lazily... not going to get better and Americans will allow the country to slide into crisis just because they are unable to have intelligent political discussions

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  • [–] 167 points 5 days ago (29 children)

    It's like this. No shade to Americans, but you guys can do this shit in any four year period. You elected him TWICE.

    No hard feelings, but you're on your own.

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    [–] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    The average American citizen wont understand or care about this, and yet I do imagine there are pretty negative long term implications for them, along with all the other garbage being piled onto them.

    I brought up that the cost of diesel has gone up massively (particularly at the start of the Iran conflict) and has started to rapidly balloon again to a co-worker at my 2nd job said he did not care about the price of diesel because he doesn't use diesel...

    I carefully explained to him that everything is shipped over land is using diesel and this will cause the price of everything to go up and he pushed back again saying "Well everything is going up in price anyway." Its like dude WTF do you even do with people like this? I did not even touch on the expense of using heavy construction and farming machinery also increasing costs of everything...

    He described himself once as someone who agrees with democrats on social issues but thinks republicans are better on the economy and I internally was like DUUUUDE THIS IS THE FUCKING REPUBLICAN ECONOMY RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING TROGLODYTE AAAHAHHAHAHA WE FUCKING DESERVVVVE THIIIIIIIISSSS.

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    [–] 15 points 4 days ago

    The end of an empire ?

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  • [–] 103 points 5 days ago (14 children)

    Are there people who still don't know this or are just realizing this?

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  • [–] 80 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

    Unfortunately, yes there are.

    I talked to an idiot the other day who said Carney only rejected a trade deal with the USA to "stay in power"... they apparently are not aware Carney already has a majority, is very popular ATM and does not have to face an election for some 3 years.

    Some people are just too dumb to realize when they are wrong and will die on their chosen dumbass hill

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    [–] 26 points 4 days ago

    I always knew conservatives (regressives) would destroy America. I just didn't think it would be so fast and so aggressively stupid.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    In the end, the world will thank Trump for freeing them from American shackles. I hope that this is the beginning of the end of US dominance.

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    [–] 29 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    The only way we can even begin to fix this is if the entire Trump crime family & their enablers are indicted & incarcerated. The entire cabinet belongs in prison or in RFK Jr's case, executed for innumerable counts of Depraved Heart Murder.

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    [–] 17 points 4 days ago

    In 2000, the Simpson's episode "Bart to the Future" predicted a Trump presidency that left the economy in shambles for Lisa. It's funny how mild it's foreboding prediction when compared to what his actual presidency has become. I realize his support is tanking, but it's still way too high, specially for a now severely compromised federal system.

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  • [–] 64 points 5 days ago* (2 children)

    Trump is the symptom not the cause.

    If anything Trump is doing the world a favour by dropping the pretence that the US is a good global citizen that just happens to have hundreds of military bases worldwide, an infinite money hack and nukes.

    The US is a brutal imperialist power that genocides or destroys anyone who gets in its way. People with sense have known this since before Vietnam but the narrative pushers are finally high and dry.

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    [–] 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

    This is what Putin wants to see. Chaos in the West.

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    [–] 31 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    For Europe, it's a long overdue reality check that we were way to dependent on the US for defense.

    This is not what Trump intended, so he does not get credit for that from me but there are benefits.

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    [–] 12 points 4 days ago

    Look at him salute. He's an embarrassment and no one has the courage to tell him to stop saluting like a drunkard. Plus it's a disrespect to the military and I'm not even a military guy.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    All that post-WWII goodwill ... Gone.

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    [–] 7 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Delegating your security to any other country, like much of the world has done for decades with the US, is never a good idea. Europe did this after WW2 because so much of it was destroyed by war. Allowing the US to continue as their sugar daddy for so long is at least partially on them. Canada is feeling the sting of this too right now.

    If a country can't provide for most of its own needs in terms of goods, services and energy, it has no real sovereignty.

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    [–] 30 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    I hope the entire world turns its back on America.

    If they can do this to me, one of its own citizens, imagine what they'll do to you.

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    [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    America First? America Alone.

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  • [–] 48 points 5 days ago (60 children)

    No Trump. Americans.

    The first term was forgivable as long as they learned from it. Instead they celebrated it and cried out for more.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 days ago

    It's happening in Germany. It's happening in France. It's happening in Australia and Canada and Italy and Japan and pretty much everywhere. Somehow, in spite of a proven record of failure and catastrophic consequences, right wing ideology continues to grow like a cancer across the globe.

    The US got to this point with help from foreign billionaires, as well as domestic ones. Elon Musk, Rupert Murdoch, Sundar Pichai... The grift is global and putting your vitriol toward those who might take your side will leave you friendless when it happens to you where you live.

    People gave up instead of showing up and that was a costly mistake.

    Many people mean well, even if they live in bad places. Have the grace to encourage them to keep resisting, even if that resistance is as small as protest or even voting, for your own sake.

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    [–] 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    It's not accident or short-sighted incompetence either, it's direct from the fascist playbook. Fascism and Authoritarianism feeds on crises and enemies, so if you don't have any of those you need to manufacture some.

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    [–] 11 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    You deserve it for by ing an evil empire

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    [–] 29 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Ironically, it was probably the corporate bootlicking and Robert's clearly nonsense claim that the President is above the law that sealed the deal. An election abberation is one thing, the rest of the power establishment sucking his cock while declaring that the system will continue to allow and encourage the chaos is not something worth dealing with.

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    [–] 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    US soft power is gone like an orange pedo fart.

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    [–] 13 points 5 days ago

    Wow you threaten war on your allies and they are running? Traitor! /S

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago (101 children)

    As an American I have no doubt that our relationship with our allies will improve once we restore some sanity to the White House, but we’ve forced our allies to diversify their trade to brunt the impact of our tariffs and now that they’ve done so I don’t see any sane reason why they would undo that.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Its going to take at least 50 years of good faith, and I wish you good fucking luck with the insane 4 year flip flop political bias your country has.

    We Canadians have been scratching our heads over the course of your increasing instability for 20 years, and we aren't going to forget that over night.

    Trump is a sign that the political landscape in the US is so unstable that nothing promised by any political figure can be trusted by your allies.

    Only a foolish nation forgets that overnight. We won't.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    Well then you haven't been paying attention.

    We have committed some of the worst war crimes of the modern era

    We threatened to INVADE MULTIPLE ALLIES

    We have constantly lied and broken multiple signed agreements

    Our allies have permanently changed large scale trade operations to China for stability

    The dollar has decreased in value

    Allies have removed bonds and gold reserves from our country.

    Allowed a bloated and swollen pedophilic rapist to go on tv and threaten to nuke a civilization at the UN

    Ostracized ourselves by launching state run media and threatening to dismantle the ICC (which is investigating us for warcrimes)

    Allowed the president's family to invade and steal islands from sovereign nations (we all know what they want islands for)

    And more!

    No. There is no going back. The country was couped and is dead. Take a look at who is running every agency within government and you go ahead and tell yourself in the mirror that when trump doesn't accept the election results, he won't, that Kash Patel and Tom Homan will send DHS and the FBI to arrest trump. Maybe the Military run by kegsbreath and the businessman secretaries will come get him? Maybe the US Marshals will come get him- oh wait, they gave Trump a marshal badge and said he is the "highest law enforcement officer in the land"

    A country of delusional peasants.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    The problem is one of who comes next for America and after that.

    Now the world knows America is willing to vote people like Trump into office, it has to act accordingly.

    Trump Is what you expect from Argentina or some country already in trouble trying to find a way out.

    Not the biggest economy in the world! Now everyone has to plan accordingly that this can and probably will happen again.

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