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Pope Leo XIV @Pontifex: In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.

Spectro @Spectromachina: Pope, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you do not understand? You’re not an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no weight in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. how many local models do you run?

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[–] [S] 195 points 1 week ago
[–] 141 points 1 week ago* (9 children)

Only an "AI influencer" can weigh in on the use of AI? Gee, I'm sure that will lead to nothing but a reasonable, balanced, and nuanced consideration of the issue 🙄

also, lol @ "how many local models do you run?" as if those aren't also trained on millions of stolen images. Do you even lift run local models bro?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Ironically as you stated the do you even ai bro is likely using a model he didn’t build that some company based on stolen material, when the Vatican actually does run several private models they actually trained themselves, based mostly on texts in their extensive private library, formed to assist in translations mostly. Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.

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    [–] 98 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    "you're not an AI influencer" got me barfing

    "noone elected you" : ok so this dipshit doesn't know the second thing about popes

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    [–] 83 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    You can hate on the church for many things, but you can't deny that they've been one of the art world's biggest patrons for thousands of years.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Well that’s mainly because of all the satan statues they commission being too sexy—leading them to have to pay a new artist to tone it down. Except the new statue comes out even sexier, leading them to commission a new artist to…

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    No matter how much I abhor the bs that comes with it, I can still find myself in some awe in a grand cathedral. At least I can attribute that to something someone did with their hands, and not a raindrop in a cloud of staggering uncare spewing forth into the mouths of people who aren't interested in tasting the slopfest

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    To be fair, they patronized artists from tithes collected from the population. So it's hard to say how much art didn't happen because there was less free time available.

    It's like how Rockefeller got a plaza named after him for his philanthropy after being a monopolist. We see the help they did but what was lost is invisible.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  • [–] 72 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Kinda hate these idiots are pushing me to side with the pope

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  • [–] 62 points 1 week ago

    "you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion"

    "Yes... I am God's representative on Earth..."

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  • [–] 61 points 1 week ago

    Spectro, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you have a financial stake in? You're an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no impartiality in this debate and you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. How many fascists do you pay fees to every month?

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  • [–] 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Pope is quite famously an elected position...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    We could debate how fair that election is, but that's a lost cause with churches anyway. It also certainly isn't an open, democratic election by any stadard, but again, transparency and democracy have never been their mission statement. I'm also on board with treating the cardinals as nobody (important), but that's not a literal "nobody" either.

    So, yeah, he is elected, and by one of the strangest procedures I've ever heard about.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    So, he was elected, by the cardinals.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The dumbest thing here (and it was a tough competition) was using the term "influencer" to imply expert authority.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 week ago

    Lol what an idiot. Yes the Pope was elected by the enclave (white smoke, you know) and even if I dislike the catholic church, Pope Leo is right here. Fuck Spectro and their disrespect.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 week ago*

    “AI influencers” are incredible idiots even amongst idiot influencers. Like said below, using that term as some kind of respected title is beyond ridiculous.

    I’m pretty into the local ML space, and I can’t name a single “influencer” that isn’t a shameless scammer or totally unhinged. Or both. Not one that posts anymore, anyway.

    Even if they’re talking about some early researchers who Tweet, if you actually listen to them, they’re calling out transformers LLMs as dead ends and have moved to other spaces in ML.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    how many local models do you run?

    I will ask this every AI shill from now on. We all know they are just OpenAI bootlickers

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    [–] 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    WTF is a Spectro, and how do we get it to shut the fuck up?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 week ago

    The Pope, for the record, has a bachelor in mathematics. Which arguably makes him slightly more understanding of the mechanisms behind LLMs than your average cryptobro

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The worst part is millions will see this and side with the addict.

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    [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    How many hail Mary’s do you have to do for telling the pope to “shut the fuck up”?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    Specto has no business talking pope things, since they're no pope.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Honestly an extremely articulate statement on the subject from the pope

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    What the pope has over many AI influencers in this matter is an actual degree in mathematics.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Name three songs, Pope.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago*

    Anyone else think that he says "Pope," like he's speaking to someone named Pope?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    All the good Christians tell the pope to "shut the fuck up".

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago*

    tl;dr:

    Pope: "Drugs are bad, m'kay?"
    Tweeter: "Well that's like... your opinion, man."

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