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Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran's Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been "obliterated," while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 135 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The United states is a terrorist country.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

America is the model the Nazis looked up to.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

I've heard that before too but if you are going to try and convince anyone an actual source will help.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Death from the sky wherever we judge it to be right. It’s some Death Star shit.

I was so surprised when California Protester Shootings happened and everybody acted surprised.

I had always just assumed that the US is a terrorist state and these things happen regularly. It surprised me a lot when people acted all shocked about it.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (13 children)

The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of "the people".

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

And Trump is that way because he's an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn't really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 2 points 22 hours ago

As an outsider, I don't blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.

It's cognitive dissonance from the top down.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Isn't that what the US constantly does other countries?

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

60%. Non-voters don't get a pass.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Saying “The United States is a terrorist country” is exactly not blaming the working class people. The state itself is run by and operated by fascist terrorists.

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

I would agree with you.

but after years of propaganda saying that Gaza needs to be killed because of a 2006 election. I think that logic needs to be applied to the country making that propaganda. The US voted for it very recently, no excuses.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can't distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the "good side" of America.

Just like you can't separate America from it's history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can't separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your "most deadly military's" best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn't what's bad about America, he's just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton's America!

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Don't forget about Russia, they are doing horrible shit all the same. It's not only US imperialism.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I hope you don't think it's just the current administration. I don't blame the majority of the populace (in the same way I don't blame the average Israeli or Russian for example), but as a political entity this is nothing new for the USA.

Edit: or rather, from the outside looking in, this doesn't feel particularly off brand

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"The administration" is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), "this administration" is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun...

(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently "dancing to the tune of the puppet master" than most of the US's other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

find me a US President who didn't do/oversaw/allow war crimes?

I'll wait

it's not a just a Trump issue

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper...

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What an odd choice... I know you're referring to the USS Maine and invasion of Cuba, but that was not the start.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those neat little slider things that do a great job of showing before and after typically work better when the images are aligned.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, having the handle on the middle of the picture instead of underneath is awful on mobile where you can't see anything because of your own finger.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grab it with your finger and then move your finger down, you can then swipe left and right without blocking it

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

There's a region around the handle where you can grab it to slide left-right but also be scrolling the page up and down, defeating the attempt to move the finger out of the way.

The first time I tried it I kept hitting that region, but I see now that with a bit more precision you can avoid the up-down segment.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought we needed to use nukes to penetrate their nuclear sites. Either that was a lie or these attacks did not do what Trump is saying it did.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 18 points 1 day ago

I read they didn't knew if it's going to work or not. They still don't know if it worked. Trump says it worked because he's Trump.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That's as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.

The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.

There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)

Long story short we don't know if these did anything.

Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Bunker busters only have about 2kg of payload,

Nope. Please note: when an American writes 2.082 lb, he's not meaning 2 pounds and tidbits. He's meaning 2000 pounds. AFX and PBXN are not glitter, they're explosives. :)

Filling AFX-757/PBXN-114

Filling weight 4,590 / 752 lb (2,082 / 341 kg)

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Yep I meant 2000kg apparently. Thanks for the correction

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I think they lost funding from USAID, so I don't know what it is now.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

~~The landslides at Fordow look extensive. The whole mountain must have shaken.~~

Edit: Maybe what I'm seeing is just shadows rather than new debris at the bottoms of some slopes.

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