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[–] 82 points 2 years ago* (45 children)

Oh wow, another meme completely disregarding a problem many are struggeling with. But don't worry guys and gals, it's okay because it's making fun of mens' suffering. And men can't be discriminated against.

On another note, has anyone figured out yet, why men are never emotionally available? It truly is a mystery 🤔

/s in case you can't tell.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (43 children)

    Silly men just need to understand that saying "I'm lonely" and "women belong in the kitchen" are equivalent. So don't you dare ever talk or reach out if you're lonely.

    It's a real shame that male loneliness is so quickly dismissed because it would be a great starting point to begin talking about how traditional male friendships tend to keep each other at a distance, and maybe come up with ways to bridge the gap so existing friendships can become deeper.

    Instead it feels like the conversation just gets to this point where we all collectively shrug and say, "shame" and never really talk about it more than this.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    In my career, I have had a lot of contacts with Saudi Arabian men. I’ve sometimes been a bit jealous of the ease and familiarity of their male-male friendships in that culture.

    They generally have no qualms about just hanging an arm over a friends shoulder and just keeping it there for a protracted side-hug, seemingly without a thought.

    Sure, there are other aspects of the culture that give me pause, but the easy familiarity is something that I think is beautiful.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (44 children)

    What's the toxic female equivalent of Andrew Tate?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (39 children)

    LMAO let's not pretend like places such as /FemaleDatingStrategy don't exist. Misogynists and misandrists are two sides of the same coin. If I have no problem saying that misogynists like Andrew Tate are shitheads, then you can admit that man-hating misandrists are also shitheads.

    And don't you start telling me "Oh, but woman-hating misogynists are worse" because then the conversation turns in to the "Oppression Olympics" and all people do is focus on arguing about who has it worse instead of focusing on actually fixing anybody's problems. Both misogynists and misandrists are bad, and both should be condemned.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    there is a male loneliness epidemic

    FTFY

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I think it's phrased like this because it's less acceptable for men to express feelings like sadness or loneliness. men and boys who are lonely and alienated can more easily fall down the Andrew Tate/4Chan/Jordan Peterson/blackpill pipeline which yields violent extremist behavior. Obviously it's not only men

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    Yes, it's because despite the problem being the same for everybody, the "treatment" has to be very different. So it's better if you break it down into two different epidemics.

    And one gets more attention because every single well known and applied procedure to fight the epidemics don't work for them.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Yeah, that’s not at all what the male loneliness thing is about at all. Was the point of your meme to make fun of how ignorant people are about this particular issue for men or were you trying to suggest the issue is invalid and the result of misogynistic assholes? Because if it’s the latter I think you just demonstrated your own ignorance and should probably spend some time trying to empathize more with men and educate yourself.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I doubt the first 3 statements are the same person as the fourth in most cases

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know this guy who is absolutely ridiculous about this.

    On one hand, he can't stand women's groups, gets upset about women's sports, can't stop dismissing anything that isn't solely masculine like yoga, dance, and even rages on women artists and musicians.

    On the other hand, has BEGGED OUT LOUD to people (I'm not even his friend) to get him connected with "chicks".

    I have no idea how to tell this guy he's a miserable hateful fuck who will die alone because of his own personality.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Pretty funny that lots of now “feminine” activities like horse riding, yoga and dance were originally very masculine and women got into them when men moved onto to other crap like cars and whipping each other with towels in the locker room.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago*

    The people speaking about male loneliness epidemics aren't the incels right? I think trying to understand the problems related to masculinity in society is exactly the opposite, trying to combat incels and the like. It has nothing to do with blaming women (at least in my experience)

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago*

    Death of third places and the tech takeover of social interaction is why men and women seem to hate each other now. We don't have much opportunity to meet romantically in person and the online space pits extremists against each other until all the regular people believe that's just the way it is in real life too.

    Can't overlook that women being, for the most part, economically equal for the first time ever gives them more opportunity to choose as well.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    The comments on this one really highlights Lemmy's demographics. You can take the men out of reddit but you can't take the reddit out of men lmao

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    [+] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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    In the US, women couldn’t get credit cards without a co-signer until 1974.

    Historically, women had to have a man support them if they wanted options other than poverty. Your grandma probably didn’t have many other options - it might have worked well for her, but that wasn’t a choice made freely.

    I think a lot of this is that relationships are a choice now. You have to be someone that someone wants to be with. This is a good thing, but it’s also a hard thing.

    It sucks to be lonely and not get laid, but at the same time no one owes you sex or attention.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    In 2013/14 my common law gf applied for life insurance on herself, she was a teacher. The insurance company didn't want to insure her without me cosigning in case she ever lost her job and couldn't pay the premimums. Like wtf. A) its not 1950s, B) if you can't pay you lose the insurance anyway, so no risk to them.

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah the dude in my old neighborhood who drove a Dodge RAM but rearranged the letters so it said "WAR" on the tailgate instead, and had a bumper sticker that said "KILL EVERYTHING" in that script that's like, "badass Gothic tribal" but in reality is just floral minus the actual flowers... Not all clown cars are smol

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think the two are fully related, at least not causally. If 1-3 are true, then there should be a large enough pool with things in common to avoid loneliness. If this specifically means sexual/relationship loneliness than, yeah.

    Third spaces going away and moving a lot online has definitely had an impact on people hanging out outside of much more niche groups. I don't care for organized religion much, but people of various backgrounds worshipped together. People had volleyball and other local leagues made up of all kinds of people who saw a flier for it. Men (not sure if women had something similar) went to fraternal order of the whatevers. Hell, dad and I went to Commodore computer enthusiast meet-ups. I think the loss of things like that has been bad for a number of reasons, including loneliness.

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