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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What would happen if you did the equivalent of feeding your A.I. a healthy diet, then run a parallel system and fed it only burgers and pizza and Doritos?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

you could probably get more energy burning a burger in a generator, than eating it. BM

[–] Smc87@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Nothing, cos energy is energy

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 151 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (29 children)

If you ever study biochemistry, it leaves you absolutely in awe. The best engineering we can do is pretty amazing, we have computers and airplanes and all this magic stuff, but the stuff in you is a hundred, a thousand times better made. It's stunning. Comparatively speaking, it is perfect. And that's only the stuff we understand. The stuff in your brain, we do not.

[–] flippinfreebird@lemmy.today 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember a quote from Civ along the lines of "if the brain was simple enough for us to understand, our minds would be to simple to understand it."

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's a pretty trivial informational paradox for a mind to comprehend itself -- comprehension of its comprehension of itself then needs further comprehension... So yeah. Only a much more complex mind can understand a given mind

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

We don't need a single mind to understand the entirety of how the brain works. One of the powers of human knowledge is its distributed nature arising from our ability to write things down and create abstractions. What matters in the end is that we as a collective understand the brain.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Antivirus protection could be better, though. Oh, and the built in self destruct is kind of a bummer, too.

[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

It is a planned obsolescence.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Figernails are so annoying

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 day ago

Rip them off.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

If you ever need to claw your way out of a heap of rubble, you'll be thankful for them.

[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the relatively short amount of time we've had with computers we've made pretty astounding progress though. If we had had a few million years to improve those silicon brains I think we'd give evolution a run for its money!

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yea, our engineered stuff might be simplistic compared to the brain and biology, but evolution is just a combination of luck, randomness and "unguided" trial and error. There's no "thought" to evolution and that's why we end up with all these....weird quirks and flaws LMAO

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

those quirks are all features, i swear

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that we only recently mapped out the brain really tells you a lot about its complexity.

[–] socrates@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

And that was only a fruit fly brain! Human brain still hasn't been mapped.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Natural selection is essentially just a massively parallel Monte Carlo optimization algorithm that's been running for billions of years. It's so simple yet produces such amazing complexity.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

That was one of the better QoS settings on my router back in the day.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Give it a few more billion and we'll finally have an intelligence, that's not hell bent on destroying itself.

[–] 8baanknexer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think this might be a case of expecting a fish to climb a tree. Brains are terrible in fp32 performance, and computers are so far not great at reasoning. But that's mostly because they are made for different things. I'm not sure of this, but i would expect a single neuron firing costing a similar amount of energy as a single transistor firing. The difference is in part that they work differently, but I think the most important part is that they are put together differently. Computers were made for arithmetic while brains evolved for socialising and survival. For most other things you are 100% correct though, we could not recreate a bee or an ant even if we wanted to.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I can create real time visual imagery with no apparent resolution limit or perceptible frame rate including audio and a soundtrack.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

Apparent and perceptible are the key words here. Your brain makes up pretty much everything and pretends it's the real deal. Detail and consistency really aren't all that great actually, much like ai video generation

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, your brain is amazing, sure. Buuuut get Neuralink and let me plug my game in while you try to render the raytracing from foliage collision and I'm pretty sure you would crash like a Windows RT.

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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hold my nanostructured beer.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My shit ass wetware needs to lock in and catch up. It can't even run Doom or play back Bad Apple properly.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Visualise playing Doom in your head. It's free, and the cops can't stop you.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"You wouldn't imagine downloading a car, would you?"

Well? Would you?!

.....?

ANSWER ME!!

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

My brain has the same power draw as a Switch 2? This explains a lot...

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 62 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This article estimates that GPT-4 took around 55 GWh of electricity to train. A human needs maybe 2000 kcal (2.3 kWh) a day and lives 75 years, for a lifetime energy consumption of 63 MWh (or 840x less than just training GPT-4).

So not only do shitty "AI" models use >20x the energy of a human to "think," training them uses the lifetime energy equivalent of hundreds of humans. It's absolutely absurd how inefficient this technology is.

[–] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

I think you underestimate how much time and energy it took to get us to this point. Like, billions of years of evolution to arrive at a brain as efficient as ours.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just connect your brain up to a monitor and imagine your game with the best graphics you can possibly think of.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Capitalism has us by absolute fools.

Paying $69.99 for something someone else dreamed up.

We have a solution for this, its called going to sleep.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

20% of our body's energy use is our brain, it's a major energy expenditure.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Compared to what, >50% for a 4090 in a PC?

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago

That's 50% of your households energy

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Efficiency wins out.

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