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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I don’t understand how it’s not a requirement to pass these safety regulations before manufacture. How can a company fully produce and sell a dangerous product as big and complicated as a car before someone regulatory sees it and cuts it off at the head?

This alone has left me with zero faith in pretty much anything I buy anymore. It’s like it’s a surprise when something works as advertised anymore.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 83 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cannot speak for EU regulatory bodies. But Canada gave it a provisional pass pending testing because the US gave it a full pass

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fooled you once, shame on America...

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

... Fool me - you can't get fooled again.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

and I am very disappointed in my country for it

of course, they also allow unlimited brightness headlights (or at least near enough), so it shouldn't be a surprise that they don't give a fuck about people outside of the vehicle

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The more you learn about America, the more you understand they give 0 fucks about the people. It’s a capitalistic nightmare where corporations have no accountability.

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[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not in the industry and I'm not in the EU, but it was obvious that this ridiculous monstrosity wouldn't pass the most basic safety regulations in the UK and EU. There are rules about having soft edges for collisions with pedestrians. Tesla completely ignored these despite begging aware of the regulations for the multiple other cars they sell here successfully.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago

You're also not allowed to just make cars out of whatever random material you desire. It has to be automotive steel, and plastic for body work. Not inch thick stock metal that you would normally use to beat an elephant to death

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They likely knew it would only be sold in North America only.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I have a feeling that the engineers knew but Elon didn't, or thought he could do his usual and force it through.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Because any serious company would make sure they can actually sell their product before they go to manufacturing.

Tesla likely knew the Cybertruck wouldn't leave North America in serious numbers.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Well i guess the EU can't stop something being manufactured in the US.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Regulations in Europe are stricter than in the US. It's legal in the US but won't be here without substantial changes.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

It's, honestly, probably only legal in the US because of bribery.

[–] diptchip@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was not banned. It just never got a permission in the first place because it does not comply to rules and regulations.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Move fast and break the law.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

It's not really breaking the law though is it. It would only be breaking the law if they tried to sell it in Europe anyway and since they never did no laws have been broken.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“failing to comply” makes it sound like they ever had any intention to do so.

Reader, they did not.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And 'banned' makes it sound like it was at some point allowed here.

It just never passed regulations. Not a shock.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago

I wonder if they even bothered attempting the test it in the first place.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not actually banned it's just it doesn't meet the safety requirements so it's not allowed.

It's like saying you're banned from bars when you're 12, you're not really banned you're just not allowed in, it's not really the same thing.

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[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Canada here. Please, Europe, make it a condition for any future trade deals between us that we have to ban the Cybertruck here as well. I've already seen too many of them on the roads here for comfort...

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't believe it was able to pass Canadian safety regulations

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm not even Canadian and I know it's a rolling fire hazard.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The Cybertruck is too big for European roads. Its weight and size make it a risk, especially in cities with narrower infrastructure than in the US. .

In the event of a crash, the Cybertruck’s structure doesn’t absorb impact well. This endangers not only the driver but also the occupants of other vehicles involved .

The use of a light bar on the front of the vehicle is causing visibility problems for other drivers, which violates several European traffic regulations.

These are all good reasons to ban it. But I don't know why the article then talks about the such easily rebutted recall rate...

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because it comes under "and things aren't going well in the US either"

The headline doesn't fit the entirety of the article, which also mentions the failure of Robotaxi in Texas, and the miserable sales numbers, etc.

It's really more about how Musk's not gonna conquer the world's car market.

Which would be good, because anyone whose trucks are designed so you can't see who you're about to run over, and whose vehicles in general are deadly to drivers, passengers, pedestrians, and anyone who lives over a garage where the battery is being charged, should fail utterly and completely.

Edit: Even if he weren't a Nazi. Which he is.

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cybertrucks were never "banned" per se, just defacto illegal to drive on the road because they do not comply with vehicle safety standards. People have tried to import them, making token efforts to make them road legal based on requirements for one-off importations but they haven't succeeded.

There are videos that explain what they would need to be legal and basically it amounts to being completely redesigned. They don't have the correct light clusters front or back, they're too heavy to be privately driven and they are so unsafe for pedestrians that the entire outward appearance / frame would have to be changed.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

common EU win

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So is this going to tank TSLA stock? Or were they already banned so no big deal?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Sales of new teslas in the EU aren't great ro begin with, and the truck market is strictly professionals. I don' think that it's going to affect the stock price.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They never got approval

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't understand these articles? Was there ever any chance the Cybertruck could be street legal in Europe?
It obviously doesn't meet current standards, and I don't see why standards should be changed to allow this monstrosity to drive on the roads of Europe.
IDK if regulation is exactly the same in all EU countries, but here (Denmark) you can only drive max 3500 kg total weight with a normal drivers license. The Cybertruck can easily get above that, and you wouldn't be able to use a trailer with with it.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Those are the strangest bullet points I've ever seen in an article. What do Mosquitos have to do with the Cybertruck? Almost makes me want to actually read the thing.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's becoming a common tactic, actually - the bullet points do not relate to the article (at least not when I loaded the page). It's just links to random crap to try to keep you in their site and viewing more ads. Jokes on them, I only surf with UBlock active.

And I'm not even sure this qualifies as an article - more like a low effort blog, once again just to farm ad views.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I wonder what this means for us up in Norway. You can import a CT if it’s been owned for a given amount of time, by someone in America. After that you import it and it’s fully legal in Norway.. it’s pretty stupid, and I’m not sure if these laws will affect us the same way as EU countries.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are several in the Czech Republic too, and there is a guy willing to import it and add EU lights for $200 000

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Bahahahahahahahahaha. Now do the US next please.

[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't fit in most roads regardless. You can't drive that thing around, even if you wanted.

[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They will try, where I live in the Lot France you see a lot of guys and gals trying to compensate for something by driving Ram 1500's and F150's. I truelly do not get how to get around considering most villages have not changed much since the 1800's.

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