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    [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    as a GUI pleb i just doubleclick the file, which opens kate.

    i edit the file and click save, get asked for my password

    and all is fine.

    [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 31 points 1 day ago

    that's way too simple, the linux gods demand more esoteric suffering

    [–] courval@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

    How dare you use computers to do stuff the way they were invented for?

    [–] hactar42@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    A fellow nano user! There are dozens of us!

    [–] courval@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

    Hell yeah gotta embrace the pain of using archaic key bindings that you'll forget until the next time you need to edit a file in the terminal, you must suffer like man. Modem and sane terminal editors are for pussies! If it doesn't load in 0.01 ms it's bloated.. Whatever you do don't install anything like micro, just keep suffering!

    [–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

    Gooble gobble

    Yeah, there is only one of you.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Its lighter weight than vim

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    [–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Getting flashbacks of me trying to explain to a mac user why using sudo "to make it work" is why he had a growing problem of needing to use sudo... (more and more files owned by root in his home folder).

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    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 105 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)
    [–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It's safe because it's sudo! Like sudo rm -rf /*

    [–] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    At one of my prior positions they outsourced all the junior engineers to this firm that only had windows desktop support experience.

    Actual escalation I got:

    contractor: I am trying to remove this file that is filling the drive but it won't let me

    me: show me what you are doing.

    contractor (screenshot): # rm -f /dev/hdc

    another one did rm -rf /var to clear a stuck log file, which at least did solve the problem he was having.

    After that I sent out an email stating that I would not help anyone who used he rm command unless they consulted with a senior first. I was later reprimanded for saying I wouldn't help people.

    [–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

    I was later reprimanded for saying I wouldn't help people.

    I've heard that before. "No. I won't close the circuit breaker while you're holding the wires." "Boss!..."

    [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    You won’t be able to do certain things. Either .ssh or ~ expects certain exact permissions and pukes if it’s different, IIRC

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

    Yep. I fucked up once when I meant to type chmod for something but with "./" but I missed the ".". It was not good.

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    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    why tho?

    If it's a file I have to modify once why would I run:

    sudo chmod 774 file.conf

    sudo chown myuser:myuser file.conf

    vi file.conf

    sudo chown root:root file.conf

    sudo chmod 644 file.conf

    instead of:

    sudo vi file.conf

    1000001464

    [–] korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Inane. Intentionally convoluted, or someone following the absolute worst tutorials without bothering to understand anything about what they're reading.

    I have questions:

    • Why are your configurations world readable?
    • Why are you setting the executable bit on a .conf file?
    • Why change the files group alongside the owner when you've just given the owner rxw and you're going to set it back?
    • If it was 644 before, why 774?
    • Why even change the mode if you're going to change the ownership?
    • Why do you want roots vimrc instead of your users
    • Why do you hate sudoedit
    • Why go out of your way to make this appear more convoluted than it actually is?

    Even jokey comments can lead to people copying bad habits if it's not clear they're jokes.

    This was a joke right? I was baited by your trolling?

    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I felt kinda bad doing that at first. then your absolute rage made my doubt's melt away.

    lulz

    [–] ulterno@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

    doubt’s

    I see what you did there

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    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Total noob. Any experienced user knows it's

    run0 micro file.txt
    
    [–] courval@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    How dare you using a 21st century terminal editor that keeps you sane? You're supposed to learn a whole new set of archaic key bindings! And suffer!

    [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    sudo = shut up dammit, obey!

    [–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    obligatory... (well, you know the rest)

    https://xkcd.com/149/

    personally, I prefer the good ol double bang (!!), but whatever floats yer boat, and all that.

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

    I mean if you double bang me I'm likely to do whatever you want, too.

    There are many people who appreciate a double bang.

    [–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    sudo dolphin

    Then I act like a Windows user and go there via the GUI because I didn't feel like learning how to use nano.

    [–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    If you're running dolphin as sudo and open like a text file in an editor, does it edit the file with sudo?

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    When you run a process under sudo, it will be running as the root user. Processes that that process launches will also be running as the root user; new processes run as the same user as their parent process.

    So internally, no, it won't result in another invocation of sudo. But those processes a dolphin process running as root starts will be running as the root user, same as if you had individually invoked them via sudo.

    [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

    But in my experience Dolphin refuses to run via sudo anyway.

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    [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

    You meant sudo vim, ok?

    (disclaimer: joke. Let the unholy war start)

    [–] swab148@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Great one. Many thanks!

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Do people really war over nano vs vi?

    I get the vi vs emacs war, but are people really willing to die on a hill over nano?

    [–] arality@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

    Not willing to die over this comment. Hear me out for a second. I recognize how powerful vi (is it neovim these days?) is. But I could never play games with those awful hjkl keys for navigation, I hate them. Also, I don't have to memorize nano. All the key combos are listed on the bottom. So it requires less mental load.

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    [–] capuccino@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If your file is not in your home directory, you shouldn't do chmod or chown in any other file

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    [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Sorry, user babe is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

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    [–] korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

    You mean sudoedit right? Right?

    edit: While there's a little bit of attention on this I also want to beg you to stop doing sudo su - and start doing sudo -i you know who you are <3

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