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[–] 176 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

That's fine. I'll ask my wife and her friends, a mix of NPs, PAs, and RNs, if they recognize the current administration as professional.

Answer will be no and they can kick rocks.

This is also clearly be design to cut peoples access to education as well as reduce the total number of healthcare workers. A double whammy.

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  • [–] 68 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    My partner is a nurse here in the Northeast. Unfortunately a lot of her coworkers are Trumpies.

    Most of them are practically disengaged from politics and only follow their (male) partner's political beliefs. If they're from one of the surrounding rural (white and low income) areas, the chances they're like this are higher. Not shockingly, a fair amount of their partners are cops.

    It's strange and disheartening to hear about nurses she works with who flaunt that they won't get the covid vaccine, who denigrate patients with substance abuse disorder, who verbalize that they would rather not treat a trans person, and who treat black and brown folks like a different species. But it's definitely a trend in nursing culture up here.

    Its especially difficult for my partner who chose this path in large part because of her acute sense of empathy. The state of healthcare is just bad here.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Nurse Practitioners, Pennsylvanias, and Registered Nurses? 🤔

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  • [–] 99 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Fellas, is it good when I stop funding nursing education in the middle of a nurse shortage

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    They want to reduce the needed learning so they can pay people less to do the same job but pass it off as some streamlining process to address shortages. They're still going to charge the same for care but pay less to those who provide it.

    Taking an actual problem and looking to address it from a capitalist view point so that line always goes up.

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    [–] 83 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It’s an attack on women. Nursing has historically been one of the only accepted paths for women to make a living wage. It’s an equivalent wage to the construction or police profession that is typically male dominated. I expect to see a lot of attacks on women’s ability to be self sufficient in the coming years. Subjugation and forced birth is the goal.

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    [–] 68 points 10 months ago (20 children)

    “The department determined that the following programs were professional: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, law, veterinary medicine, osteopathic medicine, podiatry, chiropractic, theology and clinical psychology. This meant that physician assistants, nurse practitioners, physical therapists and audiologist were excluded from the list.”

    Theology and clinical psychology? I didn’t even know that was a career choice, let alone one I could take out a $200,000 loan for.

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Clinical psychologists are PhD level therapists and are very good at what they do generally

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  • [–] 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    biggest employer in many states btw, it's like they want the economy to crash

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  • [+] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)
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    I want to stop being surprised but I can't imagine the sheer depth of inhumanity and monstrosity of these people, and I am someone who grew up with a lifelong hatred of Nazis and their mythic-levels of cruelty.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I feel like this is related to H1B visas. The Trump admin wants to ban them and one barrier I think was most of our nurses for hospice etc are immigrants (I'm filipino, this is known), so banning H1Bs would impact nursing. This may be their way of banning H1Bs while keeping the nurses around. Unsure of how nursing relates to the H1B program, I'm a software engineer my experience with it is from coworkers having the visas.

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    [–] 29 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    When the MAGA shit stains visit the ER, I hope the first nurse they see is a full blown liberal.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Why do you want them to have qualified care?
    No give them a MAGA nurse, and tell the nurse it's a liberal, and let them eat each other.

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    [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    I hope he gets a nurse with a fake degree the next time they have to rush his fat ass to Walter Reed.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (16 children)

    Actually not sure how I feel about that. They simply classified it for the same caps on student loans as the rest of us, rather than the higher one for roles like doctors.

    Both caps are bad, for all of us. Our college education rates are already far too low, and now we’re trying to make college more unaffordable?

    But I guess I assumed a nurse’s education was similar to a four year degree, although I don’t know. Is it not? The nurse they quoted claimed 15 years of college: surely that can’t be normal. Isn’t that more than doctors get?

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago

    There’s a difference between an LPN, an RN, etc. Some nurses do have doctorates, which yeah, might be about the same amount of education that a doctor typically gets.

    There’s a perception that nurses are “lesser” than doctors - but nursing is fundamentally a different skill set.

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    [+] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)
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    [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    So it's better than that now right? Right??

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    This is misgovernance in the extreme, but the following is not the best quote to support that point, emphasis mine:

    One nurse posted through the IVs By The Seas TikTok account, a clinic offering mobile IV hydration and aesthetic services in New Jersey: "10 years of schooling... $210k in student loan debt... 15 years of ER and Trauma experience which included preventing physicians from making error at 3 a.m. and now... my degree isn't considered a professional degree. Cool."

    It’s cool that they have a nurse doing that, but hangover cures and spa treatments don’t seem like a great use for those ten years of schooling (now, the ER and trauma experience is obviously valuable). No shade to her, and I completely understand that an entire career working as an ER and trauma nurse would be demoralizing, but this is a perfect snippet for people who support rolling reimbursement back to quote to show that it’s not really needed.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Don't fuck with the nurses, bro.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sure let's cut back the amount of available nurses to an already struggling count of nurses why not. May as well just say "don't be a nurse, we don't value it." Getting the same treatment as teachers now it seems like.

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    [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Time to move to Canada!

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